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Posted By
Luca
on 2025-07-02
15:08:27
 |  Re: Commodore Plus/4 Exclusives
@Waz ...but both ACE and Saboteur are no less than converted AOTW. Ooooh guys, whassuup!? Haha! 
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Posted By
Waz
on 2025-07-02
15:03:41
| Re: Commodore Plus/4 Exclusives
Icicle Works had a Plus/4 and C64 multi--soft released by Commodore with one version on each side (this was before it got bundled with the Plus/4 pack in the UK), so probably have to rule that out.
Maybe rather than "exclusives" maybe do a feature on the games which needed > 16K memory to run, and what the differences were between that and the 16K version - ACE and Saboteur are probably good examples due to this.
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Posted By
Luca
on 2025-07-02
11:47:36
| Re: Commodore Plus/4 Exclusives
@Crown ...but again 16kB!
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Posted By
Crown
on 2025-07-02
11:26:36
| Re: Commodore Plus/4 Exclusives
Truly original and exclusive:
Oltic
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Posted By
Csabo
on 2025-07-02
10:57:34
| Re: Commodore Plus/4 Exclusives
- Must be Plus/4 exclusive, not available for any other systems.
- Doesn't matter if it's a clone of another game, as long as it's not identical.
These two are the tricky ones IMHO. Does Gravity Boy count as a Plus/4 exclusive? It was available for TVC first. Does Icicle Works count? One could easily argue that nothing on the Plus/4 will be identical to any other platform, due to the TED's sound and colors, etc. Bottom line: you'll have to make some judgment calls.
Anyway, there's more than enough now for 10 games
On another note, it amazes me that folks do YouTube videos about the good ol' Plus/4. IMHO the handful of folks you see in this thread are the only ones who care about this topic at all 
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Posted By
Waz
on 2025-07-02
07:10:00
| Re: Commodore Plus/4 Exclusives
It's quite a tricky one this, as a considerable number of games > 16K (and so need an expanded C16 or a Plus/4) that were released back in the day were generally available on other systems as well - so if a game sold well on say the Spectrum or C64, it'd be ripe for conversion - and I know this happened with several Mastertronic titles such as Finders Keepers, One Man and His Droid, and BMX Racers to name a few.
Some also had 16K versions, but the links below are for >16K, so for example:
Mercenary (and Second City)
Saboteur
ACE (where they had to do a Plus/4 version as per contract)
World Series Baseball
Icicle Works
Treasure Island
Jump Jet
Hollywood Poker
Terra Nova - there was an Atari ST version, so not exclusive
The difficulty was that for most commercial publishers, they would need to ensure maximum compatibility with the systems it was released for - which was why so many of them were made for 16K machines or had 16K versions available. This is why the Anco / Kingsoft route generally meant exclusives for the systems that also had expanded versions (and even then had 16K versions) so:
Bridgehead
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Posted By
Haegar
on 2025-07-02
06:23:32
| Re: Commodore Plus/4 Exclusives
That's right, I hadn't realized that moment that Summer and Winter Event are 16K games. Those were just examples. Then there's Karate King, Bridgehead, or Terra Nova (the first game I know of on the Plus/4 with voice acting).
Although I'm not sure if Bridgehead wasn't also available on the C64.
It's just too hot today to think straight :-)
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Posted By
Luca
on 2025-07-02
06:10:28
| Re: Commodore Plus/4 Exclusives
@Haegar no C16 stuff, he said.
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Posted By
Haegar
on 2025-07-02
05:13:22
| Re: Commodore Plus/4 Exclusives
So, if I understand correctly, you're looking for commercial games released exclusively for the Plus/4 - C16.
I think most of the Kingsoft games would be what you're looking for. For example, there are many variations of winter or summer events on all systems, but the versions published by Udo Gertz under Kingsoft have not been converted to other systems.
For me, both games are among the top games from that era.
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Posted By
The Laird
on 2025-07-02
03:02:57
| Re: Commodore Plus/4 Exclusives
@Csabo
I am not sure what is vague really, but I will clarify.
The games I am looking for:
- Must be Plus/4 (64k) games and not C16 (16k) games.
- Must be Plus/4 exclusive, not available for any other systems.
- Doesn't matter if it's a clone of another game, as long as it's not identical.
- Can be any type of game, but ideally I want games from back in the day rather than modern homebrews.
- Something that I can download a ROM file of to play in the video.
The context is that I make a video series called "10 Amazing Exclusives" and the idea of these videos is to show games that would make the computer/console worth buying.
But thanks for all the suggestions so far, very helpful!
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Posted By
gerliczer
on 2025-07-01
09:19:18
| Re: Commodore Plus/4 Exclusives
Also, you could browse the Novotrade Magyarország catalog for non-16kB games. Those are mostly originals.
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Posted By
Harry Potter
on 2025-07-01
08:49:16
| Re: Commodore Plus/4 Exclusives
It's not exclusive, but my Smir 3, 1 text adventure has a Plus4 port, and so do my text adventure codes. The former can be found at https://sourceforge.net/projects/cc65extra/files/game/. My text adventure codes are AdvSkelVic65 and AdvSkel65, and their info can be found on this site's tools page under Programming.
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Posted By
Csabo
on 2025-07-01
08:36:28
| Re: Commodore Plus/4 Exclusives
This gets super tricky, because IMHO the original request is a bit vague.
Several of the games listed above do exist on other platforms, though obviously they are not 100% the same.
The Pit is based on Boulderdash.
Xplode Man is basically a version of Bomberman.
Nu, Pogodi! exists as a handheld game.
Candy Dots is a version of the "Water Sort" games.
Deck Wreck: Demokracy is a port from Android.
TileSlip is a port of a DOS game.
While unique Plus/4 games, Memento and Mr. Mind are implementations of well known classics.
At the same time, I would consider Lykia - The Lost Island to be a Plus/4 exclusive... that also happens to have a "lesser" C64 port (by the same author, released at the same time).
A few more old school Plus/4 only games (not exhaustive):
By TCFS: Battery, Battery II, Hypa-ball, Nucleon, Runner Mission, Magic Ball, Üveggolyó, Jerry's Quest
By CSM: Halállabirintus, Inkák Kincse, Mission, Test Of Hero, Battle Axe, Demonsdom, Firm Base, Halállabirintus II
By MC: Acid Flipper, Hydroines, Shooot, The Die Hard
By Wit: Dex, Dex II
By Ratt: Nathrium Chlorid, Skidz
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Posted By
George
on 2025-07-01
07:42:29
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There are not many original exclusives for the Plus/4 only, since they wanted to sell for the C16 too.
Look at the 32k games and games from Kingsoft (German)
Die Seefahrt
Der Pfad Im Dschungel
Bridgehead
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Posted By
Luca
on 2025-07-01
06:17:44
| Re: Commodore Plus/4 Exclusives
Oh well, Super Cobra could be considered as mostly inspired to the coin-op, far to be a faithful conversion tho.
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Posted By
The Laird
on 2025-07-01
06:02:14
| Re: Commodore Plus/4 Exclusives
I would like to find more games that are not modern homebrews though.
I can't count Super Cobra as it's an arcade port.
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Posted By
The Laird
on 2025-07-01
05:57:04
| Re: Commodore Plus/4 Exclusives
Thanks Luca, that is brilliant!
I will work my way through that list!
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Posted By
SukkoPera
on 2025-07-01
05:46:40
| Re: Commodore Plus/4 Exclusives
Well, I guess it's anything that did not come out on other platforms and requires more than 16 kB RAM...
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Posted By
The Laird
on 2025-07-01
05:07:19
| Commodore Plus/4 Exclusives
I am doing some research on genuine Commodore Plus/4 exclusives, by this I mean that the games won't play on a standard C16 and didn't come out for any other platforms, and would love to hear all your suggestions?
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