Posted By
Plus/4 Team
on 2004-11-16
14:12:02
|  LEMMINGS +4
Üdv mindenkinek !!! Az lenne a kérdésem ,hogy a LEMMINGS +4-es verzióját befejezte vki?? Ha jól tudom pár pálya elkészült de nem lett befejezve!!!! Másik dolog , hogy a wolfeinstein című pc-s játékot meglehetne írni plusin? Köszönöm!! Plus4 Team!!! A plusi legyen veletek!!!
| LEMMINGS +4
Hi all !!! My questions is, has anybody ever finished the Plus/4 version of LEMMINGS?? If I recall correctly, a few levels have already been made, but it hasn't been finished. The other thing, could Wolfenstein be converted from PC to the Plus/4? Thanks!! Plus4 Team!!! May the Plussy be with you!!!
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Posted By
Austin
on 2004-11-16
16:59:07
| Re: LEMMINGS +4
I have no idea what this means 'coz I'm not educated enough to have a second language! However, If it means somone is coding Lemmings for the plussy then great!!
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Posted By
Spector
on 2004-11-16
18:04:14
| Re: LEMMINGS +4
Lemmings already exists doesn't it? It has a different name for copyright reasons, but I thought it was completed, unless someone can correct me.
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Posted By
Gaia
on 2004-11-16
19:01:16
| Re: LEMMINGS +4
Yes, it's being written for about 10 years now  Unfortunately, the author (TCFS) is very busy ATM 
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Posted By
DCD
on 2004-11-17
05:13:24
| Re: LEMMINGS +4
many years ago i started to code a game, called wolfeinstein+4. the movement in the dungeon was not a real 3d, but rather like in this game. enemies was not implemented, as i can remember. ok, i'll scan my old tapes, maybe i still have is somewhere.
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Posted By
Luca
on 2004-11-17
12:53:11
 | Re: LEMMINGS +4
Really Viktor? Wanna see it! :D
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Posted By
Plus/4 Team
on 2004-11-19
01:47:16
| Re: LEMMINGS +4
Köszi mindenkinek kár hogy a wolfeinsteint nem lehet a 3d miatt megírni plusira! 
| Re: LEMMINGS +4
Thanks to everyone too bad Wolfenstein cannot be writte for the Plussy because of the 3D!
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Posted By
Unreal
on 2006-01-06
11:14:07
| Re: LEMMINGS +4
Sziasztok!!!!
Keresem TCFS-t vagy aki tud segitsen meg egy email cimmel. A napokban nagy cseteles kozepette belelkesultunk Luca val a Lemmings befejezese irant, megtalaltam csomo elveszetnek hitt grafikat is hozza, be szeretnem fejezni!!!
TCFS VALASZOLJ!
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Posted By
Luca
on 2006-01-06
11:16:59
| Re: LEMMINGS +4
...and what about some F****** ENGLISH!?
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Posted By
Unreal
on 2006-01-06
11:22:58
| Re: LEMMINGS +4
HI ALL!
(I write in english for Luca's request )) But my english is a big s**t!
If anyone known TCFS's email address please write me!!! Some days ago i have a chat with Luca, I found many graphic for Lemmings and i wanted to finish this proggy!
TCFS reply to meee))
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Posted By
Luca
on 2006-01-06
11:26:08
| Re: LEMMINGS +4
BTW, Csaba cleared up my mind, pionting out that Lemmings C64 operates on a little portion of the screen. The TCFS'creation is fullscreen, instead!
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Posted By
indi
on 2006-01-06
15:33:28
| Re: LEMMINGS +4
Actually....Lemmings on the C64 uses a really neat sprite trick. That playfield is done in sprites, and the lemmings use characters (probably stored in vertical columns as its much quicker).
The sprites are then placed behind the background. This gives 2 playfields and allows much faster drawing of the Lemmings....pitty the P4 can't do that...Oh well.
I used 2 playfields on the SNES as well, and used a 4 colour screen for drawing the lemmings....soo much easier. Course... it also had DMA meaning the clear screen was much faster as well.
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Posted By
Luca
on 2006-01-06
16:08:25
| Re: LEMMINGS +4
MikeD, I was there when Tamas had shown us more than 40 softsprites moving around in a fullscreen level, and there's a photo here at +4World that can show my face:
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Posted By
Csabo
on 2006-01-06
17:12:13
| Re: LEMMINGS +4
Okily dokily, so here's my two cents just so we're all clear. Lemmings exists, we have a little shire here on Plus/4 World with screenshots, photos, and all known info. (It's obviously not serving it's purpose very well, reading the above posts...) It's working (playable), been shown on patries and known to be spreading underground despite the author's request. We're all hoping it will be finished some time.
If you guys have just a bit of patience, someone with admin rights will come around and translate non-English posts, just be patient, and stop with the "I don't understand" type posts.
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Posted By
Unreal
on 2006-01-08
15:51:54
| Re: LEMMINGS +4
Hi guys!
If anyone got a right contact address of TCFS please email me!
I am really happy if Lemming plus4 will ever be finished! I told my idea to Lavina, i hope he can help!
I found all of my graphics for lemmings (options screen, lemmings anims, levels, logo, etc), so not much time is need for a finish. ... and the really good news, I found the LATEST release which TCFS copied to my disk!!!(v3)
HAHOO TCFS REPLY TO ME!
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Posted By
Lavina
on 2006-01-18
03:36:38
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I contacted TCFS, he is busy as usual, only gave a life signal, but I assume there is light at the end of the tunnel.
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Posted By
Luca
on 2006-01-18
03:56:09
| Re: LEMMINGS +4
That's great, Lavina. Especially, it's good to know he's ok, though heavily working.
I wonder about the little project he talked about at 4ever03, if you remember he said that game would be finished before the Lemmings'final release. It was, if my mind doesn't cheat me, a DonkeyKong clone or so...
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Posted By
bubis
on 2006-01-18
07:39:24
| Re: LEMMINGS +4
No Lavina, it is usualy a train coming.
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Posted By
Lavina
on 2006-01-20
03:44:54
| Re: LEMMINGS +4
It depends on the level of optimism, to decide that... 
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Posted By
Austin
on 2006-01-29
18:32:05
| Re: LEMMINGS +4
Give me LEMMINGS!
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Posted By
Lavina
on 2006-01-31
07:43:11
| Re: LEMMINGS +4
...and me! GIMMEGIMMEE!!
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Posted By
Luca
on 2006-01-31
07:59:43
| Re: LEMMINGS +4
Oh please, every time this topic undergoes refresh, my heart get a bad hit.
Don't gimme mirages! :_(
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Posted By
Csabo
on 2006-01-31
10:30:24
| Re: LEMMINGS +4
The point is this: everyone wants it. Not sure if TCFS maestro ever pops in to read these threads, but if he did, it would confirm that there's a demand. We all hope he finds the time and energy to finish and release this game.
In order to save Luca's heart, let's keep this thread for adding actual new pieces of info if possible
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Posted By
Luca
on 2006-04-19
17:09:22
| Re: LEMMINGS +4
TCFS has talked again!
Please hungarians, we need to translate the Oracle here!
http://forum.index.hu/Article/viewArticle?a=54063411&t=9006036
Sziasztok!
Na, újra idetoltam a kerékpárt, mert sokaknak hiányoztam... Sajna nem sok jó hírrel szolgálhatok:
Lemmings = bukta ... tizen-iksz év távlatából beleolvastam a saját kódomba, amit anno csak úgy monitorban heggesztettem és beleokádtam a billentyûzetbe. Tehát a lelki világom mellett a hardverem is romokban hever. ) Nem is beszélve arról, hogy megnéztem és szinte semmi memória nem maradt semmilyen hasznos funkció további implementálásához. A progi maga nem túl nagy, de a memóriát elfoglalják a mindenféle pufferek. Pl. alaphangon 4 grafukus képernyônyi terület van felhasznála a duplapufferes grafikához...
GPC: Az irányítás sajnos marad. Volt szerencsém annak idején olyan görény módon programozni (ahogyan azt Prokee is említette a gondolatmenetek eltérôségérôl), hogy mindenféle "release modulok" rakták össze a kódjaimat. Ezen release folyamt lezárása volt a "titkosító" cuccok lefuttatás (az ominózus, "busy", "exploding" és társai ))) Tehát a pontos release folyamat ismeretének hiányában ma már esélytelen vagyok bármit is összerakni újra. (Pl. a battery 2-ben az egyes fájloknak a lemez meghatározott területére kellett esniük, amiket mindenféle disk monitorral pakolgattam át a felmásolás után, stb.)
Amennyi megmaradt belôlem az irányításból, az az I-vel ignition, meg a space mint sebváltó használata. Ha a gázadással együtt nyomtad, akkor felfelé váltott, ha a fékezéssel együtt nyomtad, akkor meg lefelé.
Folmek: "tcfs_is_playing_battery2_1991.mpg" és "tron3d.mpg". Ezeket még anno én digiztem be a Karsten-féle Compy XMAS VHS-rôl. Tudtommal Prokee tette fel valami ftp site-ra.
IEC-ATA átalakító: Ha valakinek van kész hardvere arra, hogyan lehet notebook winchestert illeszteni a plusihoz egy IEC-ATA átalakítóval, akkor vevô vagyok a megoldásra, boltolhatunk ) (Esetleg még jobb, ha IEC-CF modulja van valakinek, mert ilyen kapcs. rajzot is láttam már a neten)
Ja, és mostanában ismét külföldön nyomom, tehát bocs hogy ha nem tudok találkozgatni senkivel...
Töci
| Re: LEMMINGS +4
Hi!
Well, I pushed my bicycle over here once again, because many of you missed me... :-) I don't have too much good news however:
Lemmings = failure... I read into my code after ten-some years, which was just edited in monitor and vomited into the keyboard. So besides my soul my hardware is also in ruins. :-) Not to mention that I checked and there's almost no memory left to implement any useful functions. The program itself is not too large, but the memory is taken up by all kinds of buffers. E.g. by default 4 graphics screen areas are used to display the double-buffered graphics.
GPC: The controls must unfortunately stay as they are. Unfortunately back then I programmed like a skunk (as Prokee mentioned re: differences in thinking), so that all kinds of "release modules" were what made up the code. To close the release process all kinds of "secrecy" stuff was run (e.g. Busy, Exploding, etc :-)) So without the exact knowledge of the release process today I have no chance of putting together anything. (E.g. in Battery 2 the individual files had to be in specific areas of the disk, which I moved around using all kinds of disk monitors after copying them, etc.)
What I can remember about the controls is that I is ignition, and space is the gear shift. If you push it with gas, it switches up, together with the handbrake it downshifts.
Movies: "tcfs_is_playing_batter2_1991.mpg" and "tron3d.mpg". These were digitised by me from Karsten's Compy XMAS VHS tapes. I believe Prokee put it up on some FTP site.
IEC-ATA converter: If someone has the hardware ready for connecting a notebook winchester to a Plus/4 using an IEC-ATA connection, then I'm ready to buy :-) (Maybe it's even better if someone has IEC-CF module, because I've seen such circuit diagrams on the net.)
Oh yeah, and nowadays I'm once again kicking it abroad, so I don't have time to meet with anyone...
Töci
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Posted By
Lavina
on 2006-04-21
02:43:36
| Re: LEMMINGS +4
I contacted Töci some days ago and suggested him to read the plus/4 forum on Index.hu , as his name reapperaed again on the wish-lists.... Well, it looks bad, but the hope dies last.
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Posted By
Dan Wood
on 2006-04-21
11:05:55
| Re: LEMMINGS +4
Ich würde mir vorstellen, dass "Wolfenstein" erwartet im Wert von der graphischen Macht sein unmöglich würde, die es nimmt. Jedoch, wenn jemanden tun, zum Befreien "von Lemmingen" umgehen, selbst wenn es nur ein Niveau ist!! BITTE!!
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Posted By
bubis
on 2006-04-21
16:30:31
| Re: LEMMINGS +4
English BITTE!
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Posted By
Gaia
on 2006-04-21
18:34:48
| Re: LEMMINGS +4
This makes no sense in German. I guess it was made with a web-translator. What more, Dan Wood is known to be English native
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Posted By
Plus4/Teams
on 2006-04-22
14:26:53
| Re: LEMMINGS +4
Hát sajnálom , hogy nem sikerül megcsinálni ezt a Cool kis játékot erre a kis gépre! Egyébként beérnénk egy Lemmings +4 Demo-val is ha megtudná esetleg valaki oldani!
Üdvözlet mindenkinek!
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Well, I'm sorry that this cool little game can't be made on this little machine! By the way, I'd even settle for a Lemmings +4 Demo if someone could arrange it! ;-)
Greetings to everybody!
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Posted By
Dan Wood
on 2006-04-30
23:29:08
| Re: LEMMINGS +4
Yep a German web translator, wondered if they worked! Evidently not lol. How I longed for those in my school days, looks like I'd have still flunked
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Posted By
Luca
on 2020-09-22
11:16:19
| Re: LEMMINGS +4
I keep to resurrect ancient threads Again due Frank Gasking's recap, TCFS has definitely freed all the available material about Lemmings! Yes, now you have the best known preview to be downloaded or played via Javascript emulator online.
Go to the Lemmings page even if you're seeking the GTW's recapping post.
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