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Posted By

Luca
on 2025-02-10
03:31:34
 Forthcoming new RPG game

Title:The Tale
Category:Game/RPG
Release Date:2025-03-30
Language:English
Size:64K
Device Req.:Disk only (1 side)
Machine:PAL & NTSC
Code Type:Basic + Machine code
Distribution:Freeware
The Tale Screenshot


A new RPG game which smells like Ultima-style.but written in BASIC, is under development by Haegar of Synergy!

And we have a promo video for you, too. Feedback is very welcome.

Posted By

George
on 2025-02-10
09:45:54
 Re: Forthcoming new RPG game

Looks really promising! Well done!
Posted By

Unreal
on 2025-02-10
13:05:31
 Re: Forthcoming new RPG game

send me the blocky pic to fix happy
Posted By

Haegar
on 2025-02-10
15:13:35
 Re: Forthcoming new RPG game

I can send it to you if you can fix it in under 30 minutes. That's how long it took me to make the pictures wink
Posted By

Csabo
on 2025-02-10
15:31:56
 Re: Forthcoming new RPG game

Are they AI generated? The first one says "SYNEGY" sad

A lot of forums have AI art banned completely. I wouldn't want to do that here, but in general, I would discourage everyone from using AI, IMHO it diminishes the value of human creativity.
Posted By

Haegar
on 2025-02-10
17:17:45
 Re: Forthcoming new RPG game

Yes, they are mostly generated with AI. Now we could start a philosophical discussion, but I don't think anyone here wants that. The images aren't "signed" by me either, as is usually the case if you look closely. For me as a one-man group, it's not easy to be a coder and a graphican at the same time, especially when time is short. And you can see how stupid AI can be in some cases by looking at the error that, funnily enough, everyone saw except me. And it wasn't because I described the picture incorrectly.
In my opinion, AI does not reduce creativity but rather craftsmanship.

I see it as support without which I would not be able to create a program of this quality at the moment. It remains to be seen whether the images will even make it into the game.
Posted By

siz
on 2025-02-10
17:32:51
 Re: Forthcoming new RPG game

Please ask the AI to include the letter R in Synergy. happy
Posted By

George
on 2025-02-11
09:03:33
 Re: Forthcoming new RPG game

From my perspective, I think its ok to use A.I. as long you make it clear from the beginning. Of course most of us will prefer good old handmade games, since you see the human creativity and touch in it. But as you say, as a "one man band" you have to make compromises if you want to make your vision reality. I think things that connect emotionally to the user, like graphics and music, is most effective, when its made by humans. Code is not connecting, just a tool to make things happen, so here A.I can really help.
Posted By

TRP
on 2025-02-11
11:46:36
 Re: Forthcoming new RPG game

/OFF

The use of AI is a philosophical question. The fact that AI generated the images should not mean that we don't need that game, for example... Maybe AI could be added to the credits, or we could use a "human made" logo like the Sarge, if everything was drawn by a human. I don't now, we are still learning this...

/ON

I'm waiting for this game too. wink
Posted By

Luca
on 2025-02-11
13:18:06
 Re: Forthcoming new RPG game

When I decided to "create" and release DVM Andrea Brown Drawn By AI, the idea behind was exactly this:"The whole matter starts here", a sort of philosophyc milestone. With "the matter" I exactly intended all the pros and cons – in ethics, morality, taste, creativity, society changes – which the usage of AI would have taken into our life in general, and in particular into the Scene.

Like for Mazinger Z, the text-to-image AI looks like having a double role, which can be unbalanced on one side or the other, based on the ethic use we do of it: it can be a demon ("ma") or a god ("jin"). The same polemics are exploded in the bigger C64 scene, producing several long running discussions, a valid proposal for a Guide of Ethics, some ironic GFX compos, specific tags to assign to the prods aaand sooo on.

After two years and a half from that release, the artists reacted by activating several tools online which defend their works from the monstruous hunger of the tti-AIs, like Glaze; or they reacted by establishing organizations targeted to open a debate about how much pressure the AIs perform over several forms of job, and about the limitations to AIs to predate the artists' works, like EGAIR in Europe.

Meanwhile, in the same range of time, the tti-AIs have completely changed their potential, gaining a preponderant position of power against the plain human creativity. Compare the picture I converted in the August of 2022 with those casual four which I literally did in SECONDS with absolutely no effort.



Obviously, the topic here looks like veeery large and articulate in so many paths, and this is not the right thread where to talk about it. I only wanna point out that, hey: here we are into it, we too are now, taking the glaring example of the Haegar's logo as a starting trigger.
Posted By

Haegar
on 2025-02-11
16:22:12
 Re: Forthcoming new RPG game

First of all, I would like to apologize if something I said yesterday came across as a bit unfriendly.

@TRP - it's great that you're coming back to the game.

It's questionable whether I'll be able to incorporate any of the images into the game by the end of the competition. I think that, like with Bombtank, there will be a slightly revised version and then there will be one or two images. With the help of AI or without, I don't know yet.
Posted By

Lavina
on 2025-02-12
05:16:04
 Re: Forthcoming new RPG game

OFF

I have nothing against AI except for it's name... I don't really think that the naming is correct. For me AI is something like SKYNET when it knows about itself that it exists. These chat programs and video/audio/image generating algos are "nothing more" for me than what they are, algos with immense databases behind them, not in any way they are intelligent. I think that by naming "them" so, people diminish themselves. It's good in marketing becasuse most people don't think about the real differences between these two very different things.

ON

A new production (game, demo, etc.) is always welcome, no matter the tools used.
Posted By

George
on 2025-02-12
07:50:44
 Re: Forthcoming new RPG game

@Heagar @Lavina
I agree, any release is welcome. So don't be discouraged. I am looking forward to it.
Posted By

Unreal
on 2025-02-13
09:28:49
 Re: Forthcoming new RPG game

First of all, I would like to apologize if something I said yesterday came across as a bit unfriendly.

There is no problems, i am not offensive said that. Peace!
Posted By

Haegar
on 2025-03-28
10:23:12
 Re: Forthcoming new RPG game

In two days, these and even more enemies await you. Can you defeat them?



Oh yeah, there was no AI at work this time wink
Posted By

gerliczer
on 2025-03-28
15:40:56
 Re: Forthcoming new RPG game

Nice looking pix. What's the resolution?
Posted By

Csabo
on 2025-03-28
15:54:57
 Re: Forthcoming new RPG game

Looks like full screen (40*25) PETSCII?
Posted By

MMS
on 2025-03-28
16:01:15
 Re: Forthcoming new RPG game

The game looks really promising. I am happy to see more and more game with PETSCII gfx.

That bear looks tasty, what a big ham happy Would be nice feature to eat the fallen enemies to gain HP.
But I will skip the zombie eater part, LOL (an old Faith No More song).
Posted By

Haegar
on 2025-03-30
11:47:49
 Re: Forthcoming new RPG game

So, I just submitted the game. I hope you like it, even if it's just a basic game.
Posted By

Csabo
on 2025-03-30
14:05:39
 Re: Forthcoming new RPG game

This really could have used a bit of proofreading and testing. The main screen says "AMOUR"... Hmm, maybe that actually means love in French. happy The main screen also says "PARRY"?... That must be "DEFENSE", that's how the game refers to that stat seemingly everywhere else.

I went into the shop, tried to sell my loot. For the Y/N question I may have pressed the wrong key, and the game just got stuck in an infinite loop with no way to continue.

Another minor thing, you may want to add a TRAP statement which switches back to the default font. That way when the game stops with an error, the user doesn't end up with a garbled screen.

Good effort though!
Posted By

Haegar
on 2025-03-30
14:44:26
 Re: Forthcoming new RPG game

I had actually already improved the armor thing. I just did it again. Luca had this bug in the shop too, but now I've figured it out, found it, and fixed it.

I'll submit an updated version right away.

If anyone finds another bug, please report it here.
Posted By

Csabo
on 2025-03-30
15:06:41
 Re: Forthcoming new RPG game

Sure happy

- Need better input validation throughout: a very long hero name will stop the game with an error. A long hero name will break several screen layouts.
- Entering -10 for speed initially allows you to max out all other stats. Negative values probably shouldn't be allowed.
- Gambling with fractions leads to gold being "14.888888", which breaks some screen layouts.
- You shouldn't get thrown out of the BAR, but the PUB happy
- Pressing keys repeatedly on the troll bridge leads to ?OUT OF MEMORY error.
- You find "AN" angry troll.
- "You have found a dwarf cave. (?)ould you like to enter" -> probably Shift + W instead of just W.
- Pressing "L" in front of the Oak Doors does something odd - haven't checked the code very thoroughly, but depending on a random number it just ends up asking for another key with no message at all. When the user does press something else, a "blank message" is shown momentarily.
- If you don't have enough health but try to revive yourself, the game won't let you (should say "HEALTH" in the message instead of "HEAL" though). If you press any key at the next question (play from beginning) other than Y/N, you get revived anyway (with negative health).
Posted By

Rachy
on 2025-03-30
18:24:11
 Re: Forthcoming new RPG game

Just tried the game, I like the whole concept and nice work implementing all of this in BASIC.
Needs a little polishing, though. Probably not a lot of work to fix the bugs and review the English texts.
Posted By

Haegar
on 2025-03-31
04:28:17
 Re: Forthcoming new RPG game

As every top-selling professional game, beta testing begins with the release. Just kidding, sorry for the numerous bugs in the game. A new version of the game will be released this evening.

Thanks for every report that makes the game bug-free and better.
Posted By

J-_-K
on 2025-03-31
10:15:54
 Re: Forthcoming new RPG game

Many thanks for this great fun. happy

Posted By

Haegar
on 2025-04-01
06:22:29
 Re: Forthcoming new RPG game

Very cool, which path did you choose in the shop? Did you give the bracelet to her (more hints, but less gold) or sell it (more gold and less hints)?
Posted By

J-_-K
on 2025-04-01
06:56:08
 Re: Forthcoming new RPG game

I'm not entirely sure. My English is not so good. I haven't sold anything. So I must have given it. I always won gold playing cards. I then defeated the witch with lots of healing potions. happy (DeepL Translation)
Posted By

J-_-K
on 2025-04-02
03:46:12
 Re: Forthcoming new RPG game

Ohh, sorry, of course I mean the dice roll.
Posted By

MMS
on 2025-04-02
18:54:02
 Re: Forthcoming new RPG game

well, selling the bracelet instead of gifting it her, make her broken, and it has a lot of side effects.


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