Posted By
JamesC
on 2003-07-27
|  Re: Clarification of Csabo's Post
Please read the post from June 24, 2003 regarding Fantastic Four, before I explain further.
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The post Csabo wrote above this one implies that I threatened to put Csabo in jail, take the website away, and rub his nose into horseshit. That is not what I said. I said that if Marvel decides to pursue legal actions for copyright infringement, they would most likely come after me because I am the American that would be prosecuted under American law, and I could be jailed and/or have my website taken away. By Csabo's wording that I won't give the working version of Fantastic Four to anyone, and posting in the Fantastic Four's database entry for anyone who has a working version to submit it, made me feel that I was having my face pushed into the horse's ass for refusing to comply with his demands.
I never protested a database record of Fantastic Four. I'm the one who entered it back in May of this year. I had no problem with a screenshot of the title screen. My problem was that someone else had added pictures from the C64 version and instructions for getting Version J to begin loading. Version J will not pass the title screen without crashing, so the screenshots posted of locations within the game could only be from the 64 version. The instructions for loading the game by LOAD"SAGA.OBJ",8,1 and then G1300 from Monitor were found by me back in May, and shared with SVS and Lando so that they could test the 64 versions that they had with their emulators and real machines, and verify the results that I received.
Here is a quick cut-and-paste of the last message I sent to Csabo yesterday. You can decide for yourself what was said.
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From "James Crook"
Subject Re: Fantastic Four on rulez.org
Date Sat, July 26, 2003 6:10 pm
To "Csabo"
CC james@cbm264.com
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Csabo,
> Don't worry, you won't get into any trouble. The fact that "Scott Adams
> cannot authorize distribution" is irrelevant, because it also means he
> cannot forbid us from distributing it either. Greg Duddle cannot authorize
> his program downloads either (I emailed him). Neither can Udo. The
> companies
> own the copyrights not them. They don't mind the software being up though.
Marvel is more protective of their properties than most companies. They're
bringing back almost-forgotten characters for movies, releasing old
televisions episodes on DVD, and authorizing new videogames based on their
characters. It's not like Big Bird or Casper, we're talking
multi-million-dollar properties like Spiderman, Hulk, X-Men, etc.
Marvel has (had?) a program for websites to use their properties, this is
what I have been attempting to do without success. Please reference this
link:
http://www.cinescape.com/x-men/editorial.asp?aff_id=8&this_cat=News&action=page&obj_id=28037&type_id=271&cat_id=42388&sub_id=0
*IF* I can successfully get www.cbm264.com onto this program, then I can
put the Questprobe games up for download. But until then, I do not wish for
another site to 'steal my thunder' as you have done. Please read the last
two messages again -- I never said I was refused permissions, I said I had
not received return emails from Marvel about this.
Also, the upload date for Fantastic Four is July 13, 2003 - less than two
weeks ago. I announced in the forum and on my website in June that I had
found this program -- another pointer back to me if Marvel decides to
prosecute someone on American soil for breaking an American law. Also, this
program does not show in the Recently Uploaded list on Plus/4 World.
> You shouldn't have contacted Scott Adams either, his programs were doing
>just fine on the net for years.
Scott Adams released his programs for public use in 1998, I believe, before
this scene or our websites were even in operation. By "Scott Adams Games" I
refer to Adventures 1 through 14, specifically excluding Questprobe games.
And the last I heard, it was YOUR idea to contact companies for permissions.
> They way you're thinking no-one will ever have Fantastic Four, since Marvel
> will NEVER grant you any rights, trust me on that. So now we all can't play
> it. Is this what you wanted?
No. I went through all the work locating the game, finding the problems,
buying a new disk that just coincidentally has a working version on it.
Shouldn't I have the right to put it on *my* website if Marvel allows?
I just checked Plus/4 World database and I notice that you have added a
request for anyone who has a working version to submit it. Good luck, and I
thank you for rubbing my nose into the horse's ass.
> To put it simple: let's put up everything, and until someone comes and
> specifically tells us to take it down it's fine.
If you wish to do so that's fine. But I will act with caution, as I do not
wish to go to jail or have my website taken away. Reference US Department
of Justice news release:
http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2003/February/03_crm_118.htm
While we're at it, please remove all accesses I have to Plus/4 World other
than reading and posting on the forum.
James
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