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Posted By

George
on 2022-08-05
13:30:45
 Do you have some background infos about "DVM Andrea Brown Drawn By AI"?

Hi friends,

i am intrigued about DVM Andrea Brown Drawn By AI. Do you have some background infos how this picture was made by the AI?

Posted By

Csabo
on 2022-08-05
13:39:43
 Re: Do you have some background infos about "DVM Andrea Brown Drawn By AI"?

Look up MidJourney, it's on Discord, you get about 25 free images generated.

There's lots of other AI image generators, e.g. craiyon which are free.

Posted By

Luca
on 2022-08-05
14:52:46
 Re: Do you have some background infos about "DVM Andrea Brown Drawn By AI"?

Thank you @George, you anticipated me by opening a thread about that picture before I could do, and have to say it's pretty nice to verify that ppl had easily appreciated the experimental nature behind that release.

In the last years, several tools involving a self-learning AI have seen the light, in my opinion this big boom is a straight derivation of the diffusion of cryptovalutes mining's factories nowadays reaching even the homecrafting level in certain contexts.

We played textual adventures created on the fly with AIs capable to invent a long story you will like because it's based on the user's tastes after many attempts; we used AI's who translates on the fly some obscure Korean RPGs, or subbed some African series, and the result is still decent at now.
The new frontier opened a couple of years ago, leads to a creative application for an AI, from music to graphics and beyond, and as Csabo pointed out, today we have various implementations for AI's image generators. Among those, Midjourneyin its own V3 routines, actually looks like a further step toward this field of application, as the results versus the time spent around it are quite surprising!

Midjourney is Discord driven: after you joined it, you can prompt in a three-parts string: an optional existing reference picture, a verbose description of the subjects assigned to be drawn, and some eventual parameters to be added. Once entered, the AI begins to draw a quarted of possible pictures, from where you can pick up one to either being further evolved in 4 new proposed ones, or upscaled in a definitive format where new particulars would be added and better defined.

The prompt I used for DVM Andrea Brown Drawn By AI is: A smiling happy Afroamerican young girl with afro haircut wearing a tshirt and big headphones around her neck. Toon-styled snakes behind. Iris gradient in the background. Bright vibrant colors --s 15000 --q 2. This produced the following quartet.



I've chosen the last one, in the bottom right corner, and the AI upscaled it to produce this picture.



After a brief time of training to learn how to use the parameters in a decent way (everything's clear on their info pages btw), I spent...mmm...say 17 minutes. 17 minutes all included from the time I started the AI to the time I loaded the result on a Plus/4. Seventeen minutes, yeah!

Beside that picture, I did another experiment: I've taken one title of an existent text only adventure game, and then I've driven the AI in order to obtain several bitmaps of precise shape and resolution, to promptly convert and save MC bitmaps to be used for a possible graphics to accompain the game. In about 90 minutes I had 4-5 evocative bitmaps ready to be added.

There's one thing I am sure of: if I could have these tools in the 8bit golden era, someone should have to call an ambulance for me and push me off from the screen because I'd eventually never stopped to play with it and converge all my efforts to weird Plus/4 projects to cover grin You can literally have your own Level 9 styled adventure game one per week!

Posted By

Csabo
on 2022-08-05
14:53:30
 Re: Do you have some background infos about "DVM Andrea Brown Drawn By AI"?

Yeah, MJ is definitely better in some aspects than other AI image generators. It's only been on open beta for a couple of days.

It does pretty badly for eyes and sometimes mouths. You can see it on the above examples pretty clearly, although the effect is mitigated by the fact that the person is squinting.

There are some specific tools that were trained for faces, like this one (it's old, probably most of you have seen it): thispersondoesnotexist.com.

Posted By

George
on 2022-08-05
15:14:12
 Re: Do you have some background infos about "DVM Andrea Brown Drawn By AI"?

@Luca: I am watching the progress of the image generating AI Dallee (from OpenAI) for a while and i am amazed what pictures it can produce.

But this picture is really something special. Very impressive how it interpreted your line...Blown away really.

@Csabo: Thank you for the infos: I am playing around with "craiyon". Impressive stuff...

Posted By

Luca
on 2022-08-05
15:12:48
 Re: Do you have some background infos about "DVM Andrea Brown Drawn By AI"?

Indeed @George! Csabo has good reasons to compare the differences among AIs about the artistic value of the result, but what looked like a step further in Midjourney to me, is actually the fitting choices this AI takes at any challenge.

Posted By

Lavina
on 2022-08-06
13:06:46
 Re: Do you have some background infos about "DVM Andrea Brown Drawn By AI"?

slightly off, but why are all these mentioned methods called Artificial Intelligence? For me AI means a self-aware code that has never been realized yet, if I'm not mistaken. It's trendy to call many things AI these days, from corporate applications to these art generators. We could also call the subroutines that are responsible for NPC behaviour in games an AI, but these are not intelligent either... I'm always confused why is there no confusion using AI as a term so often for so many things that are so far from the real thing.

Posted By

George
on 2022-08-06
18:35:36
 Re: Do you have some background infos about "DVM Andrea Brown Drawn By AI"?

@Lavina: Maybe its not intelligent per definition, but its still amazing technology, which can be missused of course. But thats the case with any technology.

Its like Star Trek became reality: You ask the computer for something and it does his interpretation on basis his training data. In this case it came up with an amazing result.

@ Luca: Thank you for your further informations. I am really fascinated by this whole topic.

Posted By

Lavina
on 2022-08-06
15:48:18
 Re: Do you have some background infos about "DVM Andrea Brown Drawn By AI"?

ST Enterprise ship computer is not AI. Data the cyborg is AI. Voyager’s The Doctor is AI. Deep data analysis and learning is not AI…

Posted By

gerliczer
on 2022-08-06
15:51:42
 Re: Do you have some background infos about "DVM Andrea Brown Drawn By AI"?

@Lavina: why are all these mentioned methods called Artificial Intelligence? Maybe because of effing marketing?

Posted By

Luca
on 2022-08-08
03:08:49
 Re: Do you have some background infos about "DVM Andrea Brown Drawn By AI"?

Side talks about the evolutyion of the neural networs: my friends Kenobit (Gameboy musician) and Gabriele Dente (artist) has just published a video made of up tp about a thousand pictures created by Midjourney, describing the evolution of human kind "as drawn by machines". With a happy and hopeful ending driven by the Solarpunk view.

The principle here is: time to take control of these new techs before they become a product, like happened to the social networks.





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