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From: Chicken (all posts)
Date: 1998-07-06
Subject: Even longer...
What's up?!
"It's another Manic Monday" and Geek Kingdom is jampacked... I hate to wait about 45 minutes until I got this terminal!

> Damn, guys, I failed my university exam.
> What a f***khead am I... :-(

That's one * too much... I hope it wasn´t the simple math that made you fail the exam ;)

I´m sorry! Still, you got the results very fast... Here, it takes a couple of weeks until you get your exams back! Well, I had a partly lousy weekend aswell. I couldn´t go to the party at the institute cause I helped a friend moving (I can never say NO if someone asks me for a favor). He lived in the 6th story and there's no elevator in that damn building! We finished loading the van at 3am. All the neighbors were pissed off ´cause I dropped a chair down the stairs in the middle of the night. Thank god,
he was movin´ out! Anyway, I really wanted to go to the party at the institute ´cause this one babe who stuck her tongue into my throat on the last institute party was supposed to be there! Well, to make up for that,
I´ve been to a very COOL party on Saturday... Actually, the tongue-girl was there, too. But someone told me that she's been making out with a very UNCOOL dude on the institute party. As I said in a different e-mail... I hate to be second choice! So I decided to pursue other options... and, boy, there were many many many :)

> Check my ComLink doc for more on this. I described a 15 pin connection
> for this, which include the regular serial lines too ( = you can connect
> the units togethet by one cable, no need for a serial + the parallel one).

That sounds cool... Btw, THANX for e-mailing the CLINK. Actually, I´m able to FTP download but I do NOT have disk server access, which means I can´t take the stuff home :(

> None of my drives handled HD disks. However, one of my friends has a really
> old 1541 which read/wrote them without problems.

I heard that somebody made some hardware modifications on the 1541 to enable HD disk handling...

> Well, I suppose I'll have some difficulties hooking it to the Plus/4 :-(.
I know a guy who connected an IEEE drive to the plus/4. I think it was a
2031 (The one which is basically a parallel 1541). He's about to design an interface!

> BTW, yes, this is a DD drive. ...Hmmm, do you know any another DD tech
> drive, formatting these disks to 1Mb? :-)
I guess, some weird CPM formats would be able to do achieve a high capacity but 1 MB is pretty tough to beat!

> Speaking of the 8296, yes, I also seem to found one, maybe I'll have it
> here soon (I just bought it).

Does it have a graphics adapter?

> I bought a CBM PET 4016 and a CBM 8250 drive
> too. ...What a lucky people am I! :-). I just failed my university exam,
> nothing more... :-/

Still, who´d care about failed exams when owning a whole CBM junkyard? ;)

> So, since these old 8-bits act much less user-friendly (except for us), I
> think it's not supposed to tell anybody to use Plus/4 or any other 8-bits
> (not even my 4016 PET :-) ) for work.
>
> But it really makes some fun to work with them, anyway. At least for me,
> it does!

Now, that's the spirit!

> Yes. E-mail is something very cool, I won't believe if we ever met without
> it or without this list at all, for example.

That's exactly my point... Fortunately, every student gets an e-mail account. Actually, the first time I surfed the net, I was searching for plus/4 related stuff and long lost contacts from "back then"!

> Know what I mean? I guess something more is too, true. Earlier, if you made
> something being member of the Plus/4 scene, sometimes the answers were
> not neutral but even hostile. It would worth the work to examine it a
> bit better, but I have a thesis. Plus/4 scene was much more weak than
> C64 scene was. While C64 groups organized big parties regularly, it was
> quite rare to see a Plus/4 party (at least, I mean 'big' official parties).

That's why we started organizing these local ones... We didn´t know anything about REAL parties. Of course, we heard about VENLO and other legendary parties... Well, we just did it our way!

> The communication rather worked via letters, or not at all. ...You may
> know, or maybe, you not because of Hungarian scrolltexts,

Well, yeah... FUCKINGS TO is easy to understand.

> it was quite
> frequent to see fucking texts in the scrolls to one or another guy. Later,
> with a small overstatement, I can tell that everybody bitched at others.
> Me did it, too :-(, however, I had not much opportunity to do it :-/.

I´ve experienced that at NUKE's party in 1992 when everybody was laughing about TARZAN/TIT's demo. I didn´t understand... I never (not much opportunity aswell) send FUCKINGS ´cause I thought there are not that much plus/4 freaks anyway so I better not bitch at those few. Still, sometimes I felt like sending some...

> I think, all this was because of the weak Plus/4 scene. Since it was weak
> from just the start, there were no 'big' parties to talk with others any
> matters. Therefore everybody kicked others by ass in the scrolltexts. And
> since this a bit slow and 'accidental' kind of communication, this made
> the 'system' go out of hands.
> I mean, all this because of the wrong communication possibilities.

It's always good to talk about things... I don´t know how many friendships broke up due to misunderstandings. Well, as far as it concernes the German plus/4 scene... I think people here rather admired EVERY Hungarian coder
´cause we didn´t have so many COOL DUDES here. So we never really understood the rivalry in Hungary. We just saw its effects (like ANTIT and stuff) but not the causes! Anyway, I don´t oppose competition (not at all)
but I think the few plus/4 freaks should rather work together!

> That's why I like e-mail and mailing lists. It makes possible to communicate
> a much smaller group - I mean, meet easily - than it would have been needed
> 5 or 10 years ago.

In times of snail-mail :) (Btw, CROWN, the first letter I ever got from you included a very damaged disk... I had to transplant the magnetic disk into a new sleeve. That was quite an act but it worked fine! And I was so proud to have really cool new progs :) That day I felt like Christmas and Birthday together!) I still like to find a real disk in my mailbox...

OK, guyz, I gotta go to my US History class. The Profs assistent is quite a babe :) She always smiles at me... Well, she´ll stop that when she has finished correcting my last exams :( Tough luck!

Bye,
Chicken

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