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Posted By

MCes
on 2019-04-04
12:39:01
 Plus4 / C16 CPU replacement chip

I'm working around at a project of mine: create a reliable substitute for 7501-8501.
The alfa version (experimental board) is working....

Which tests I can do?

https://postimg.cc/gallery/ewfx83uw/

Posted By

SVS
on 2019-04-04
15:00:39
 Re: Plus4 / C16 CPU replacement chip

Hi,
very interesting work!
In order to test it you could try Test suite v2

Let we know all the future progress

Posted By

MCes
on 2019-04-04
15:22:08
 Re: Plus4 / C16 CPU replacement chip

It's based on very fast C-Mos version of 6502 CPU (fast timings are requested) so the original illegal opcode are not supported: it's the only limit that I know at this project!

Posted By

MCes
on 2019-04-04
15:23:25
 Re: Plus4 / C16 CPU replacement chip

It's work with original kernal, cassette and 1541 (on serial cable)...

Posted By

gerliczer
on 2019-04-05
15:13:22
 Re: Plus4 / C16 CPU replacement chip

Can that 65C02 (or whatever) be replaced with an original NMOS 6502?

Posted By

MCes
on 2019-04-07
11:30:14
 Re: Plus4 / C16 CPU replacement chip

8501 is a 6502 that can:
1) run @ 2 MHz
2) hardware timings referred to entering clk line (CPU is slave) and not referred to output CLK line (CPU master: a normal 6502 activity)
3) R/W line is "sampled & holded" by MUX signal on specific timings (6502 hasn't "S&H" circuit inside...)
4) bus pins can become tre-state (as MOS6510)
5) a bidirectional parallel port of 7bit is provided

I seen a 6510 for replacing a 8501, but it match only the point n°4.....

A 6502 can be hardware upgraded if it match 8501 on point n°1,2.
Note that point n°2 imply that probabilly the 6502 has to be @3MHz or more (a master CPU has to become a slave CPU)

points n°3,4,5 have to be performed by extra hardware....
remember that "not c-mos version" of 6502 is discontinued: if you buy a new Rockwell R6502B ("B"=3MHz) 90% it's a fake refurbished from every kind (and speed...) of 6502, may be a C-Mos version!

Making this project with a N-Mos 6502 can be done, but with more hardware and with serious problem of finding the right 6502 chips...



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