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Posted By

SVS
on 2014-06-03
08:10:46
 Keyboard layout

Does somebody has a layout of the plus4 keyboard?
I need the external keys, not the electronic keyboard matrix.
If yes pls send it to me at svs.fire( at )gmail.com

Thank you!

Posted By

gerliczer
on 2014-06-03
08:39:45
 Re: Keyboard layout

Hi SVS,

Will this do?

Posted By

Csabo
on 2014-06-03
10:46:41
 Re: Keyboard layout

Hey, he didn't say he needed the Hungarian keyboard layout wink

SVS, I'm assuming you don't mean this: http://plus4world.powweb.com/plus4encyclopedia/500012 So what exactly is it that you need?

Posted By

gerliczer
on 2014-06-03
13:44:16
 Re: Keyboard layout

But he didn't say not needing it either. happy

Posted By

JamesC
on 2014-06-03
14:29:08
 Re: Keyboard layout

I think SVS is looking for an illustration of what key combinations result in what character codes.

Chart A: Unshifted keys result in what's shown on the key (or lower position for numeric and punctuation).
Chart B: Shifted keys (upper position for numeric and punctuation, otherwise keyboard graphics).
Chart C: C= plus the keys
Chart D: Control plus the keys

Posted By

SVS
on 2014-06-03
14:49:41
 Re: Keyboard layout

Thank you all for your replies.
What I'm searching for is a layout of the external view of Plus4 keyboard.
Of course if not existing I'll take a photo, but a drawing should be better.
If you use the "CBM prg Studio" you will know the F4 feature that shows a keyboard where, with the mouse, one can hit the special characters. Fact is that there are only the C64' ones...
Then I kindly asked Arthur (the author) for implementing the Plus4 many special characters, right? He replied me to send some documentation. Ultimate-map has all the codes and matrix, but has not the design.

Posted By

MIK
on 2014-06-03
15:36:16
 Re: Keyboard layout

You want a picture of the English keyboard close up?

I did a quick google image search and found this. I believe it's from ebay.com, as in a USA Plus/4.
http://www.dakota-express.com/images/COMMODORE%20PLUS4%20002.jpg

Posted By

JamesC
on 2014-06-03
18:16:36
 Re: Keyboard layout

@SVS: I think that if you link him to gerliczer's photo earlier, and mention the following, the author can figure it out. happy

1. No separate back-arrow <- key. This is replaced by ESC like on the C128.
2. Note the 3 keys between 0 and Clear/Home on top row -- different than C64/C128.
3. Note the 3 keys between P and Control (not Restore) on second row -- different than C64/C128.
4. Control on right = Control on left. Just like Shift, there is no difference between left and right.
5. Note "Blink On" and "Blink Off" on comma and period [dot or full stop] keys. (SVS, insert the CHR$ codes for these when you forward)
6. Separate arrow keys = 128 mode arrows on C128.
7. HELP = F8 and unshifted. F7 is shifted. Inverted key values from C64/C128.

Posted By

ajordison
on 2014-06-07
17:21:17
 Re: Keyboard layout

Thanks everyone for the information on this, I've got enough to get started. It will be a while yet though as I'm fixing the VIC 20's screen designer multicolour mode!



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