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Posted By
Chronos
on 2009-01-26
05:19:38
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lol 
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Posted By
Chronos
on 2009-03-18
18:38:53
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
..and a must see for all, an interview with jeroen tel and rob hubbard about composing music. besides the c64 orchestra interpreting some sid tune, its simply amazing!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45W1YfAtwEQ
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Posted By
Chronos
on 2009-04-07
13:39:18
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
err... the sheep pattern by sheeps kinda faky isn't it?
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Posted By
Andras78
on 2009-04-16
16:10:23
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This is awesome!!! :D
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Posted By
Lavina
on 2009-06-21
09:43:22
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tesla
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Posted By
Rachy
on 2009-07-22
02:30:02
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
@chronos
Errr... What is it exactly? I have never seen these pictures before.
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Posted By
MMS
on 2009-08-09
08:39:07
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OK, Króna, we are at the same side
(still prefer CDT as they are Hungarians and drum is double
but WASP still rocks, although only glam rock. see my profile at IWIW, there is a nice gadget there to collect your favs.).
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Posted By
Chronos
on 2009-08-09
13:31:55
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
hehe, don't take me serious, im not really a fan of rock music. my taste is either electronic music (trip hop, trance, ambient, d'n'b, prog.house etc., and hiphop.. hehe) its just points that a noname band taken our fantastic name
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Posted By
MMS
on 2009-08-10
01:35:50
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
then check my Goldfrapp and Add N to X in my colletion. They both have interesting clips I was not brave enough to put into my collection, the Sex made me crazy, and the Metal fingers in my body wild enough (=WILDS)
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Posted By
Chronos
on 2009-09-16
18:30:28
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
An interview with the Legendary CoVboy (who was the editor of commodore világ - "commodore world") its hungarian but maybe its interesting as my topic says
No Lamer Contact
http://cov.szpeti.hu/oldal.php?oldal=extra/covboy_tomorrow
its quite old, i don't digged the forum about somebody posted it before.. just enjoy!
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Posted By
Jakec
on 2009-09-16
23:39:23
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
And on YouTube: Covboy song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNwBHrY6MRw
:D
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Posted By
MMS
on 2010-02-02
16:54:23
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Arctic Cooling came out with a 40€ TV-game (some kind of copy of WII), BUT if you check the list of games, you will find a lot of (Commodore) classics remakes/clones, like Frogger, Space Invaders, Bomb Kid, Tutti Frutti, Pipe Mania...
http://www.arctic-cooling.com/catalog/images/game_manual_ARCTIC_GC_PRO.pdf
As they come with other "gesture" controllers, they may extend the list of games. Maybe not possible...
aah, the set itself:
http://prohardver.hu/tema/re_uj_vizekre_evez_az_arctic_cooling/friss.html
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Posted By
Chronos
on 2010-02-18
16:16:09
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Doom game (originally created by ID software) version runs on ZX Spectrum (pentagon clone), done by russian famous demogroup Digital Reality. Reasonably fast 3D engine, playable version. Full version was never released (as I know)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW_XDSFdn-4
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Posted By
MMS
on 2010-02-21
15:17:00
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This Spectrum Doom clone runs much smoother, than the C64 version, despite sprite and all the others... Though, it is written in HIRES mode (in fact not the only one in Spectrum, there are other tricks also), while the C64 version tries multicolor with nicer (but much slower) environment.
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Posted By
RobertB
on 2010-02-22
21:06:02
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Was there Doom for the C64? Or was it called something else?
Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Southern California Commodore & Amiga Network
http://www.sccaners.org
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Posted By
Rachy
on 2010-02-23
02:37:41
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
@MMSZol
Don't forget that the Spectrum has lot faster processor than the C64.
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Posted By
Lavina
on 2010-03-14
17:56:39
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Click
Some of us probably would fit in this gallery, in the late 80's and maybe early 90's. Me, for sure.
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Posted By
Chronos
on 2010-03-15
16:27:33
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
some fat it bastards
but as i see im on the same way eating chips and drinking so much beer
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Posted By
Lavina
on 2010-04-10
11:40:22
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http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=37141677&blogId=465848239
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Posted By
Chronos
on 2010-05-12
14:24:56
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Friss cikk Rátkai István kalandjátékairól!
http://iddqd.blog.hu/2010/05/12/szerdai_retro_idoregesz
Link a plusis verzióhoz:
http://plus4world.powweb.com/software/Time_Archeologist
---
An interview with the legendary text adventure creator "Ratkai Istvan" who made "Időrégész", "Új Vadnyugat I-II".. only on hungarian.. :(
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Posted By
Andras78
on 2010-05-13
00:36:49
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
great stuff! i've really like these. and of course i've had the copied edition of 'Idoregesz'
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Posted By
Chronos
on 2010-05-29
13:29:34
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Hogy kéred meg angolul az igen magas IQ-jú farkast, hogy térjen vissza a kastélyba?
Return to castle wolf Einstein!
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Posted By
Chronos
on 2010-10-14
16:44:19
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Here is an interesting article:
http://www.hwsw.hu/hirek/45468/logmein-join-me-webkonferencia.html
"Logmein" and now a new online collaboration sw by company founded by Marton Anka aka "Mat"..
(when i first saw it the name was familiar for me, i hope its not a coicidence, somebody will confirm it..)
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Posted By
Csabo
on 2010-10-14
21:01:23
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Yes, I think that's him. When I met Crown at SceneCon, he mentioned that he worked for that firm as well, and so did Mat. I think he even mentioned showing Plus/4 World to him, but Mat just laughed
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Posted By
Chicken
on 2010-10-14
21:45:29
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I was going to say the same :D Crown showed me the website at SceneCon 2007 and said what they were working on. If I remember correctly, Pigmy works there, too That's some mighty plus/4 power there 
500 :)
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Posted By
Jakec
on 2010-10-28
06:20:05
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
The Commodore Plus/4 in 3D LOL
http://www.3d-taeuber.de/gallery/gallery_main.html#5
http://www.3d-taeuber.de/gallery/plus%204.jpeg
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Posted By
MMS
on 2010-10-29
18:17:53
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
A rather interesting cable, I never thought it is possible: directly connect a scart output of a device to standard VGA input:
http://www.mobildigital.hu/
Why it is interesting for us? as the scart uses for the sync the CVBS signal, (typically yellow cable) and both Svideo and CVBS are the built-in part of Scart features.
As I know, both is available from Plus/4, so with that cable -theoretically?- you may directly connect the plusssy to a VGA monitorm and no need to stuck to those old small brown 1802 monitors.
But maybe I am just wrong
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Posted By
Chicken
on 2010-10-29
23:58:19
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At first I thought - even if the website says otherwise - that they mixed up input and output because it's possible with some graphic cards to do scart compatible output. And there are some ready made cables for that around, too.
Some graphic cards require modified drivers to achieve that. Gaia posted a link to some arcade forum a while back where they presented such a driver (still requiring a special cable). Additionaly, I think (if the card is capable of providing the right frquencies) this is pretty much a standard procedure in Linux boxes (Hi TLC ).
Well, anyway. Now I think this cable is just for devices that feature "scart via D-SUB 15".
I know that some beamers don't have a scart socket but just a D-SUB 15 one. Therefore, if you want to connect a dvd player, you need a special cable.
You can find the schematics here:
(EDIT: These are the schematics of the very same cable that MMS linked above)
http://www.delock.de/download/pdf/65028/A/5445/
It's just a "pin out converter", no other parts. If SCART2VGA conversion were that easy, why would anyone buy those "expensive" converters?
I'm too lazy to check but you can trace the lines...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scart
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VGA_connector
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Posted By
TLC
on 2010-10-30
09:38:14
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Well...
VGA is analog RGB @ HSYNC >31kHz (synced by separate h+v sync signals).
SCART is either "composite", separate "luma+chroma" ( =s-video) or "analog RGB" @ HSYNC ~=15.6kHz (with a single composite h+v signal). Some late (unofficial) extensions allow component signals (YUV), with the sync still unaffected.
Connecting some VGA-ish equipment to some SCART-ish equipment directly is definitely only possible if the equipments are special (ie. either of them support the other's needs somehow). All other cases need conversion to some extent.
If you have some equipment, which can generate analog RGB @ hsync>31kHz on a SCART output, then there are chances that you can feed a VGA display with that signal, and you will see something (...you have to provide separate h+v syncs, which needs some electronics, but is pretty simple), preferably, a perfect, hi-res, crisp image. ...But I don't know of that many equipments supporting that. You can definitely do that if you have an Amiga 1200 (because the AGA chipset can do VGA-compatible HSYNCs just by itself).
Composite and S-Video would be pretty tough... these are inherently 15.6kHz... so unless you have a multisync monitor (which is a VGA-monitor capable of HSYNCs way below 31kHz), and unless you do the PAL/NTSC/whatever color to RGB conversion yourself, you're out of luck. AFAIK no VGA monitors (be standard or multisync) ever supported composite color "out of the box" anyway.
Ps. Christian (Hi! ): I can't think of possibilities how you could get that idea... ))
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Posted By
Chicken
on 2010-10-30
10:49:30
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Obviously, some gadgets (e.g. some Sanyo beamers) are capable of "filtering" the HSYNC out of FBAS if it's conected to the HSYNC pin. Only those work with such a "simple" cable.
There's a thread on a similar DIY cable here (in German, though)
http://www.nubert-forum.de/nuforum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=14847
They also list a sync stripper to provide the VSYNC but this won't help with standard VGA monitors either (just works for beamers).
Interestingly, they also mention the Multi-Sync monitors used for the Amiga 1200
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Posted By
MMS
on 2010-10-30
16:18:03
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Well, I do remember the stories how complicated was to connect an Amiga500 to a standard VGA monitor.
They had to buy expensive scandoubler/flickerfixer cards, so it was just a blind hope to have something easy for our plussy... 
But still (in the hungarian IT news) they say it is possible to connect VGA monitors:
http://prohardver.hu/hir/delock_ujdonsagok_tomkelege_erkezik.html
"A 65028-as adapter segítségével a hagyományos, SCART kimenettel rendelkező készülékekre (videomagnó, DVD lejátszó, tévé) köthetünk D-Sub aljzatos monitort." With the adaptor 65028 you may connect to a device (VCR, DVD or TV) with usual SCART output a D-sub monitor.
This company has rather interesting stuffs, like USB2.0 --> DVI
I checked the German forum: it needs from the Scart the RGB signals, so it may work with a DVD, but not with the plussy, best case it has Svideo.
Maybe I buy one, but no real hardware to test 
Lemme know to whom I should post for testing
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Posted By
Chicken
on 2010-10-31
02:52:19
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Don't waste your money These cables work only with a few beamers (and Plasmas-/TFT-TVs etc) and definitely not with standard VGA monitors. Not even most of the Plasma-/TFT-TVs can handle the signal.
That's what the forum thread says, too. Unless you have a beamer/display known to work with this kind of cable, it's unlikely that it works.
Do you think the IT news sites actually check what they write about? They just publish what they get from the company's PR department. Of course the cable has a "VGA connector" but that doesn't mean that this cable works universally for all the monitors out there 
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Posted By
MMS
on 2010-10-31
10:37:38
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Well, it is also not so bad, if you can connect to LCD TV, though it could be done directly to SCART.
BTW, anyone tested or daily use SVideo signal coming out of Plussy? Someone told in the past, it is much worse than the C64's one. It would be great to buy the real HW, but to get a nice pic on the 32" LCD TV. In some way. (eg. no need to buy the old small monitors, and get rid of that crappy RF signal)
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Posted By
Chicken
on 2010-10-31
14:41:38
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Yeah, what's the point if you can use FBAS/Composite - Scart anyway?
This might sound odd as usually s-video signals create a better picture but most likely, you'll get a better image quality by using FBAS instead of separated luma and chroma.
On my Commodore 1802 monitor (which was fed with luma and chroma) I had excellent picture quality. However, for most bigger TVs (CRT or others) this might not be true.
I didn't know this until TLC told me about it. (Maybe he even mentioned this in some other thread.) The problem is crosstalk. It's so bad that you might get a "tinted" (colored) picture when using just the luma signal alone (same cable on C64 provides a clean grayscale picture). I tried this and was surprized how bad it is.
Check out the border area in this picture:
http://retro.lonningdal.net/home.php?page=Computers&select=c16&image=c16i.jpg
This is a luma and chroma signal fed into a TFT. Not very convincing. So you should consider this when buying/soldering a cable.
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Posted By
TLC
on 2010-10-31
15:20:31
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
MMS: well... I don't remember trying how the C64 behaves in this subject (wouldn't be surprised if the results were similar, due to the similar construction of the video-out circuit), but the Plus/4's s-video out is certainly ugly.
Precisely speaking, there's no problem with bad bandwidth (seemingly washed out edges) or high level of noise (noisy image), there's a high level of crosstalk between the luma and chroma signals. ...It's so bad that some composite displays would show a _color_ image out of the _luma_ signal alone. This is due to crosstalk ie. some amount of the chroma signal mixed onto the top of the luma signal. The problem must be somewhere in the RF-modulator (...where buffering + impedance matching of the luma/chroma outs are done, beside generating RF). The crosstalk would appear as a typical moire-like image all over coloured fields of the screen, if s-video connection (separate luma + chroma) were used.
Edit: Nah, Chicken was faster :). BTW, the page linked by him holds two images (amongst others); both were taken from a TFT. The first is RF (note the poor image but the clean, flat blue field), the second is separate luma/chroma (...note the sharp edges, with the noticeable vertical bars on the blue field... we're talking about this one here, this distortion is because of crosstalk. You wouldn't see these bars if there were a third image, showing how composite looks like -- yeah, I also won't make a bet that the edges would remain that sharp as seen here).
That makes it for three possibilities:
-- RF. Worst of all, especially with modern digital TVs.
-- Composite. ...Bearable. My current choice. No unusual distortions but only what you're already used to, if you had dealt with composite displays before.
-- Separate luma-chroma ie. s-video. Sharpest image of all, unfortunately with those slightly-moire-ridden coloured* fields.
Please note that I still don't have any digital TVs (not even 100Hz CRTs, let alone LCDs), ie. I only ever had but little (...bad) experience with these displays. These do some digital filtering and tricks in order to enhance (...better said: to display a bearable result of) the digitized analog image. As I noticed, the digital filtering method usually differs for different sorts of video sources (which is probably one of the reasons why RF performs _that_ bad in spite of a Commodore computer + modern LCD displays). ...With that in mind, I'd say, "YMMV" (your mileage may vary). ...You might find out that you like either of s-video or composite better, depending on your setup (even though we know that the "s-video out" of the Plus/4 is not perfect).
*The problem only affects coloured fields, as the chroma signal is constant (amplitude = 0) for all colourless (ie. white, gray, black) fields, ie. it won't disturb our luma signal, even if there were (is) some level of crosstalk.
Edit #2: Weheee, err... check dis... :)
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Posted By
MMS
on 2010-11-02
17:07:56
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Yeppe! You found the thread! I almsot forgot it.
Well, I just checked some C64 forums, and some are very happy with the Svideo output quality, even on 32" and 37" LCD TVs. They even rebuilt their output to have real Svideo connector.
Some others are NOT so happy:
http://www.prophet64-forum.com/viewtopic.php?id=1024
Other forum:
http://noname.c64.org/csdb/forums/?roomid=7&topicid=67203&showallposts=1
"I have an LG 32 inch (model: 32LG50FD - AD). I was using just an RF cable with it but the picture had a kind checker board look to all the pixels, this made eveyones eyes very sore!
Now I have the C64 connected with the S-video cable, very crisp picture and no more sore eyes."
Based on that I really suppose, that there could be some real problems with plus/4 output, as noone has any success.
Someone suggests this, 37€
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B000XCRAOE/ref=oss_product
If you check the picture, it is pretty nice:
http://www.hs.uni-hamburg.de/DE/Ins/Per/Wendt//c642.png
In fact there was an interesting project to able to connect C64 to VGA monitor, cost ~40Euro, stopped at prototype stage, money sent back to people preordered them.
http://www.commodorescene.servebbs.org/vga.html
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Posted By
TLC
on 2010-11-02
19:19:04
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Interesting stuff...
I've got no doubts that the Plus/4 "s-video" thing should work with LCD tvs (functionally, that is), or that it's about as promising as finding some LCD which cooperates with a C64 (or some other 8-bit gear of the golden era). There would be some crosstalk artifacts, presumably, but otherwise, it should work.
I stumbled upon the schematics of the RF-modulator yesterday (here: http://zimmers.net/anonftp/pub/cbm/schematics/computers/plus4/manual/p4-11.gif ). Note that this (and the other revision also featured by this manual -- see index) is an NTSC modulator (...but I'd risk the assumption that the PAL version is similar). Judging from that, a quick-and-dirty fix (adding some switch that isolates the chroma buffer from the luma buffer ie. gets rid of the crosstalk when s-video is used) should be possible to do... Problem is: for that, the RF modulator would need to be removed first |-) (...the RF modulator circuit is inaccessible from the top side of the modulator board, since the SMD component side is mounted "facing down" in the metal box of the modulator :-/).
For me it's still not 100% whether C64 people (at least those with newer C64Cs with the smaller type of RF modulator) don't actually know this colour crosstalk problem with their s-video. Some screenshots suggest that they indeed do not. Good for them... (Will need to check someday).
Digital displays in general -- one of the topics you linked discusses that to some extent (...did I see well, was it Edhellon commenting in that topic? ). As it seems none of them had found "the" perfect LCD/TFT yet, most of them even had problems to find one that actually worked together with the C64 (at all).
The C64 guys seem to have discussed an extra problem -- the framerate of the machine is not 50Hz but 50.12Hz which causes tearing and/or frameskips on fixed 50Hz displays (which modern LCDs usually are...), if the picture gets synced at all... The framerate of the Plus/4 (PAL Plus/4) is similarly off, but to the opposite direction, ie. it's about 49.86Hz... that suggests similar problems. ...Let's indent that, this is no problem of the used connection method, this is a "general" problem of the computers not fully complying to TV standards...
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Posted By
MMS
on 2010-11-03
17:01:56
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
well, I am not that expert on that topic, I juat used those cables, and interested in the logic, but not the complete way how these signals work.
That's why I have such lame comments, haha!
I just remember to one sentence, when one guy mentioned, that it is good to add a 330Ohm to the luminance (or chroma? ) lline.
I dunno why it is good (it just reduces the level of the signal, maybe one of them is too stong, not acc. to spec?), but after this the guy had some success with an LCD TV, this small change eliminated some color problems.
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Posted By
TLC
on 2010-11-04
10:07:20
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
I also remember that comment (it was AlphA?... who described how he removed the RF modulator box from his C64C and assembled the RF electronics "back", without the metal box, because he needed the space). Yes, adding a series resistor with chroma effectively "attenuates" the color signal, which in turn results in less saturated colors. He described how "color bleeding" (a known artifact when colors are too saturated ie. the chroma signal input is overdriven) affected his "experience", and how this simple fix eliminated all problems.
...I don't know, what (in reality) was behind his problems though. I've never experienced color bleeding problems with Plus/4s or C64s myself. Ie. I don't believe that chroma, generated by our gear, would overdrive any displays (...given that these displays have nominal 75 Ohm impedance at their inputs). ...But my experience with NTSC machines also ranges from less to none, and the guy's C64C that he had hacked has been an NTSC model.
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Posted By
Jakec
on 2010-11-23
00:14:48
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Commodore 1541 DVD-ROM drive (super multi)
At first I did not understand what it is.
Cool !!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN4Una92YRs
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Posted By
MMS
on 2010-11-30
17:31:49
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Well, just by accident I found and interesting article on Google, maybe already shared here, but this is the first time I see it.
It is a short overview of Commodore's 2 decades and the surrounding companies.
Even Plus/4 was mentioned, as this guy seems to introduce them on the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas, 1984.
http://www.pathcom.com/~fjb/Personal%20Computers.html
I really enjoyed almost every sentence of that page.
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Posted By
Giuseppe
on 2010-12-18
08:37:32
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Incredible!! They made a demo using step motion and coins!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PjlnK1iWj8
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Posted By
Luca
on 2011-02-09
15:02:13
 | Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Get Lamp the trailer.
A documentary about text adventures, now on DVD.
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Posted By
Lacoste
on 2011-02-11
12:54:12
 | Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Crazy ideas:
http://www.youtube.com/user/laikingland
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Posted By
Lavina
on 2011-04-08
13:56:54
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
omg never heard of her.... to quote someone commenting on tube:
'perdon a eso no se le puede llamar musica'
The last clip is cool, though.
Here is a similar one, an anthem for a Hungarian soccer team:
Anthem
És ez vótmá?
Commodore is back
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Posted By
Jakec
on 2011-06-03
00:16:28
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
This is gooood
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Posted By
MMS
on 2011-06-22
12:39:56
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
On Vatera (Hungarian Ebay) there is a Plus/4 claimed to be brand new, never used!
http://szamitastechnika.vatera.hu/retro_szamitogep_kiegeszito/commodore_plus_4_szamitogep_sosem_hasznalt_1463156688.html
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Posted By
Csabo
on 2011-06-22
14:18:56
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Judging from the photo, I'd say that claim is true. It's in pristine condition.
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Posted By
Jakec
on 2011-06-23
03:34:21
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
This is apparent when we turn on the machine.
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Posted By
Degauss
on 2011-08-03
11:07:37
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
My beeing drunk music used to be:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0muak01p6k8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU-ZyGK5M1w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4iuNP9wF3w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SndlSKniW8Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMe1jIMJwFU
I like especially Ufomammut and Tortoise
Don't bother too much about the swiss frank: for all that doth begin
should rightly to destruction run/ denn alles, was entsteht, ist wert, dass es zugrunde geht. Seems that Marx was right and its all going down the drain finally. Fair enough. Cheer up, egészségedre
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Posted By
Chronos
on 2011-08-03
12:03:28
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Hey Ingo! your recent demos reflects this style of music..  and lavina, i go with röyksopp too, basically i can list my favourite bands and songs across days.. the dnb thing comes up again in the last few months..
anybody else wants to share own "beeing drunk" music?
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Posted By
Luca
on 2011-08-04
11:41:04
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Assembly Summer 2011: streaming till sunday.
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Posted By
Chronos
on 2011-08-04
15:23:39
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
báze' ez finnül van!
holy shit! its finnish!
but actually it was on finnish when i checked the stream, believe me fátter!
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Posted By
Luca
on 2011-08-04
12:32:14
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Actually not, the whole seminar about Far East Europen demoscene has been entirely in english.
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Posted By
Csabo
on 2011-08-04
13:58:15
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Króna: I don't drink any alcohol, so I don't get drunk... Is that really, really weird?
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Posted By
Lavina
on 2011-08-04
14:17:27
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
not if you get high instead.
I'm not an alcoholist either, but sometimes it's good to get drunk/high and party/headbang like hell till the morning. Especially in economic depressions.
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Posted By
Luca
on 2011-08-04
14:43:26
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
I remember Lavina was a precious wines'collector...
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Posted By
Chronos
on 2011-08-04
15:22:24
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Lavina is my man!
i tried both several times, but novadays im just getting drunk sometimes.. Csabo: make an expression "what if.." and throw your links
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Posted By
Lavina
on 2011-08-05
13:11:08
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
I collect exclusively Tokaji Aszú wines, and only the best quality from the 20th century. I'm proud of my collection as it's the 3rd biggest of this kind in Hungary that we (the collectors) know about. Luca, some of the bottles were exclusively exported to Italy, I had to buy them back from there. :) For example I found rare bottles in Bologna, Venice (Mestre) and San Gimignano in wine shops. :D
But it's not for getting drunk. I collect them for my son.
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Posted By
Luca
on 2011-08-05
13:24:05
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Woha I really would drink an Eszencia one day :o_
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Posted By
Lavina
on 2011-08-05
14:09:33
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
I'll take some to the next party I'll attend. There is really nothing similar to it in the world.
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Posted By
Luca
on 2011-08-06
09:27:04
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Assembly Summer 2011: Oldskool Demo compo streaming in 3 minutes!
EDIT: LCP C64 demos have just shocked me.
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Posted By
Morti
on 2011-08-08
13:17:47
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
My Commodore homepage: http://www.mortic.fw.hu
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Posted By
Degauss
on 2011-08-08
17:06:44
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Aaaah, the LCP-Demos were great. My personal favorite is the camelot-demo. nice ideas.
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Posted By
MMS
on 2011-11-07
18:34:29
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
A nicely collected funny stuff on noises and weird sound.
http://listverse.com/2008/02/29/top-10-incredible-sound-illusions/
I would call your attention on the Barber shop and matches. These one just puts you into the middle of a real 3D environment with 2 simple earphones our plugs. I know it is possible with some PC drivers, but hello it it made just with two mics, without any PC and highly sophisticated music editing SW. It is just fantastic, that without 5.1 or 7.1 you have the complete distance and height positioning. everything done by your brain.
In fact in the past with my subordinate I tried to convince some decision makers and marketing guys to work it out into real branded product. In fact we were in direct contact with the copyright owner and last real developer of that sound recording method. We made internal marketing activity, and reached very high Net Promoter Score. That product would able to play and record such 3D sound with 2 built-in earbuds. You may imagine the new level of live concerts records with this technique. The Brand must support customers with regular update on (rare) concert videos and musics recorded with hifi components.
We even made few prototypes of this product locally and some demo materials
Although everyone found it fantastic experience, but noone saw the marketing potentials.
So idea dropped by marketing guys. I am not aware any branded product supporting officially this recording method (playback is OK on any device, probably that lead to marketing guys to this decision, but come on, personally copy-protected WMA is also exists...)
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Posted By
Jakec
on 2011-11-18
15:59:11
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Yeah! 11.11.11. I wonder what created the Commodore.
I downloaded the new os. And not installed my notebookPC. The Ubuntu installer crashed (as usual). I'm sorry that it is not the new kernel (3.1). I hope the next version will be better. :(
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Posted By
MMS
on 2011-11-16
17:40:26
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
NES Joystick to Commodore (Plus/4 also)
Hey, I found Quickshots pretty hard and expensive to buy, not to mention the lot of defects.
I was curious, if any NES or SNES controller could be hooked up with the Plussy.
Here is the result, and already with Plus/4 Joystick layout too ! Respect to the fellow !
http://yupferris.blogspot.com/2010/01/c64-advantage.html
So, this joy look absolutely usual and robust
Some people say "God's own joy", and "tremendously built"
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/01/masterpiece-the-nes-advantagegods-own-controller.ars
I checked it on ebay.de
Between 7 to 15 € you may buy some.
Unfortunately the 7€ guy ships only to Germany, bad luck... Maybe next time.
With this Mod and 2 converter cables (one from DB9 to C64 joy and one DB9 to DIN9) it could be used for both Plussy and C64 systems.
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Posted By
Chronos
on 2011-11-22
16:47:32
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
luca: cool.. but frankly, why he doing that?!
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Posted By
Luca
on 2011-11-23
02:33:17
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Ah who knows...art we probably are not ready yet to understand
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Posted By
Degauss
on 2012-01-05
18:52:54
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Dunno if this one already made it into this thread:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v75QpvISUs&feature=related
Entitled: Kids of Today vs 1980's Technology, featuring a plus/4
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Posted By
Csabo
on 2012-01-05
21:30:05
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
No, hasn't been linked before. It was fun to watch!
In the end, the announcer says the kids passed, but that's not exactly true. The young girl did play a cassette and the boys did play a game on the Atari, but the 17 year old only managed to type some random stuff on the Plus/4 and never actually loaded the game.
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Posted By
Jakec
on 2012-01-06
06:57:56
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Yep!
Fully bled to death the children of the '80s technology.
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Posted By
Degauss
on 2012-01-06
09:39:31
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
To be fair: Without reading the manual or getting some other way of bootstrapping help, she couldn't have figured it out.
On the other side that "test" kept me thinking: Using smartphones, webbrowsers and whatnot seems to be a no-brainer to the kids. At the same time a very simple computer looks totally enigmatic to them. Or in other words: they learned to use todays tech but have no clue about their inner workings or at least the inner workings of yesterdays tech. It's maybe because i'm getting old, but i think this is a worrying development.
(Yet, e.g. a plus/4 is a fantastic machine to glimpse how all our todays computer-gadgets work at their core. )
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Posted By
Chronos
on 2012-02-17
18:06:33
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
LOL
http://noname.c64.org/csdb/release/?id=7500
(please dont check the prod if you're under 18 :) )
facts:
1, only noticed today that my music used in a c64 production..
2, i'm not a musician anyway
3, its one of my "enjoyable" music ..
oh my god, anno i stripped and ripped and raped c64 tracks to create my own
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Posted By
MMS
on 2012-05-23
11:53:54
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Today (May 23, 2012) Google supports a fully working ASDR (?) Moog synthtisator with filers and recording capability on the startup page.
There is a link to moogmusic.com, where you can find a video training material and PDF how to use it
NICE!!! A must for every SID and TED lover !
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Posted By
MMS
on 2012-06-09
15:25:29
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
I just saw a fantastic collection of 8bit pictures with color cycling palette animation, all look fantastic as a still picture too, but with the color cycling it gives the illusion of movement.
All I can say, it is just unbleivebly nice experience, made by Mr. Mark Ferrari
(unfortunately Plussy has no readjustable palette like VGA chunky mode otherwise I would begin to check how to convert them )
http://www.effectgames.com/demos/canvascycle/
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Posted By
retroscener
on 2012-06-09
17:13:59
 | Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
oooh that's pretty
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Posted By
Csabo
on 2012-06-09
19:14:20
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Wow, that does look amazing. Incredible talent!
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Posted By
MIK
on 2012-06-09
23:32:39
 | Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Great art work indeed although there is something Amiga-ish about them as still images. Simon the Sorcerer, Monkey Island type games come to mind.
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Posted By
Chronos
on 2012-06-10
11:38:23
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
good find!
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Posted By
MIK
on 2012-06-14
11:03:36
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Just having a nose over at Lamasoft and may of found the very Commodore C16 Jeff Minter (YAK) used too code his stuff with.
If you scroll down to the "Llamasoft Retro machine room (WIP)" which is the picture with the purple wall paint... click on it so you can zoom in to see the full size version and just below his Sega Dreamcast is a Commodore 16!!!
Link: http://minotaurproject.co.uk/grr_promo.php
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Posted By
retroscener
on 2012-06-14
15:53:06
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Nicely spotted. That's undoubtedly the same machine which he wrote all our classics on 
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Posted By
MIK
on 2012-06-15
01:56:45
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Last time I spoke to him which was about 10 years ago he never had a Dreamcast so that was a surprise as he was more into Game Cube back then playing Mario Sunshine lol.
Likes Doom on Jaguar I see, good man.
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Posted By
MMS
on 2012-06-16
04:21:27
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
nice collection! I was not really in this game machine area, but recently Mariokart was so addictive when once we played with it with my boy, i start considering to buy a Gamecube (certainly not a purple one), but still only emulator. As i see gamecube has almost the same fate as C16 had in the past, and anyone owned one once, love it or hate it.
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Posted By
Chronos
on 2012-06-29
02:21:39
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
nice find, mms! interesting copy, the case is just like the plussi, except the blue keys which is soo weiird!
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Posted By
MIK
on 2012-06-29
03:58:39
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
If you look a little closer none of the keys are straight and have been ripped out of a modern day PC. PC's like ADVENT, a brand of PC in the UK used this type of keyboard colour 10 years ago and so did a lot of cheap PC's of the day.
Played it as a kid, yeah right... Chinese wouldn't of even bothered putting a ZX Spectrum in a Plus/4 case as copyright means nothing to them.
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Posted By
Chronos
on 2012-07-14
09:55:19
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Just found today:
I've an Enterprise 128 with cassettes and docs together. Today i dug out from the chest and i've shocked when i open up the enterprise book. It was made on our good old beloved Commodore plus 4!!!! :D
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Posted By
Hans
on 2012-07-14
10:47:20
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Entreprise 128 manual written with a Plus/4:
Too bad that the author didn't quote the software which he used for typing. I bet, however, it has been Script/Plus. I can't imagine doing a manual with the 3+1 wordprocessor.
Reg's,
Hans.
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Posted By
Chicken
on 2012-07-14
15:46:42
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
He does mention the wordprocessor: He used Deltex and not script/plus. I'm not even sure if there's a script/plus version with Hungarian language support. Lots of diacritical marks
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Posted By
Hans
on 2012-07-14
13:51:49
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Now I know what the string DELTEX on the front page does mean. Thank you for the information.
Seems that my knowledge of Hungarian requires some improvement...
The only Hungarian expression I know is 'igen'...
If I ever went to Budapest and somebody would ask me in Hungarian:
'Are you mad?' - 'Igen!'
'Would you give me all your money, your wife, your car?' - 'Igen!'
etc., etc.....
Deltex BTW never made it to Germany, AFAIK.
Script/Plus had been translated into German (probably an unofficial work). I'm not aware of further translations. The translation provides the German characters ä,ö,ü,ß. - Those can be, however, also reached within the English original by definiton of the corresponding ASCII codes at the top of the document.
Hans.
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Posted By
Chicken
on 2012-07-14
15:49:01
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Well, Deltex made it to Germany Though, obviously not too many ppl here used it.
Yes, the various extended/modified versions of Script/Plus are unofficial ones. If I reacall correctly "V2.2" is one of the more popular ones.
http://plus4world.powweb.com/software/Script_Plus_V2_2
In the early 90s Script/Plus came in some modified flavor on EPROMS as well. (Besides Page Setter it was probably the most popular software here among users who wanted to do "serious" work )
Nevertheless, the copyright holder for the German market (and probably the only official distributor at some time) was the late ifi Stechmann. Rüdiger knows all the details.
Similar patches were available for 3+1, too. One was published in RUN magazine but it's almost unknown. We talked about that in some other thread. Litwr made a "Russifier" for 3+1
Back then, I used 3+1's ascii command to add umlauts but it sometimes inserted additional spaces if I remember correctly.
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Posted By
Hans
on 2012-07-14
16:37:30
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Well - I did employ my Plus/4 for "serious" work actually. Besides of Script/Plus (I had the German version on eproms which replaced the 3+1 software), my "Commodore driven" office consisted of a Calc/Plus cartridge which was adapted to the expansion port, and Superbase I used as well - there was a Plus/4 Superbase edition on sale at abt. 80 DM, IIRC.
With that software, I was able to run a real office. Worked flawless.
Being on the subject of text & graphics:
It's strange that nobody here remembers Hermann Gross' "Printfox" or "Graphic Page". That was very, very nice stuff as well. I have them both and I like them. BTW, Hermann Gross' "Printfox" doesn't have anything to do with the C-64 wordprocessor "Printfox" written by Hans Haberl. The C64 "Printfox" was launched about 1985/86. Hermann Gross' "Printfox" -which succeeded his DTP program "Graphic Page"- was on sale in 1991 - when the 8-bit era was going to vanish.
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Posted By
Csio
on 2012-08-01
15:52:20
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
You know, Csabo is from Eger (do you remember the Siege of Eger - 1552). We in Hungary say for this when somebody is from Eger, just 'He EGRI' what equal by he is from Eger. Sooo, i just send this pic to Csabo with a big huge and hope he will change his profile-pic
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Posted By
Csabo
on 2012-08-01
16:08:34
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Hehe, this is pretty funny (but you do have to know about the Siege of Eger). If anyone wants to see me, I'm on the Arok 2012 photos, but right now I'm dieting to lose some weight, so I can be thin like Gaia
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Posted By
MMS
on 2012-08-13
17:18:37
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Well, maybe little less funny, but more serious, as a programming...
We spent some time discussing the BASIC Editors and the Compliers after them.
Back to 1983 there was a package from Nick Gammon called G-Pascal (transferred to Plus/4 too, without too much hype) that was called at that time one of the most comprehensive and fast package on C64.
Right now a guy reverse engineered the original G-Pascal source code (that is an editor and compilercompiler) to provide the program in CC65 format. Just great, as I had the feeling, that some commands were just not perfect in the Plus/4 version.
http://kildall.apana.org.au/~cjb/G-Pascal/gpascal.a
Reading the manual, I understood, what we really missed. The Runetime packagage with the interperter! without that there is no possiblity to run the compliled program alone (yeah, that made this tool little less useful for us back in the 90s)
It increases by 6KB the P-Code, size increase still comparable to Austrospeed (or less?).
http://www.lyonlabs.org/commodore/onrequest/GPascalUserManual.pdf
Well, if we would have the runtime library for the Plus/4 version, we may have the great "not cross tool" development area for Plussy too.
Certainly crosstools are easier to use. but with that sourcecode (Pascla--> P Code) it would be possible to create P-code out of the crosstool Basic Editors, and then it is structured programming and not BASIC any more
Runtime was sold separately for a whopping 39USD, though with that you allowed to create fast, even commercial games or tools (Pascal can make it happen, but well, Autrospeed could be too)
http://www.gammon.com.au/GPascal/GPascal%20News2.pdf
and the discussion on the matter between the original developer and the hacker :-)
http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=11203
aahh, sorry for the long and not funny post
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Posted By
Csabo
on 2012-08-20
12:15:16
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
All right, I'll add a YouTube link too (so you guys can groan and say "I've seen that already" )
Ghostbuster's Theme on eight floppy drives
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx_vWkv50uk
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Posted By
George
on 2012-08-22
16:51:34
 | Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
@Chronos: Yepp, that was at Gamescom in Cologne.
A very interesting site about computers starring in films. Of course our series is participating too:
C 16
Plus/4
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Posted By
MIK
on 2012-09-17
06:33:01
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Commodore 64: 8 Bit Legend
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08qsP8GgaBQ
Proper professional made by Mike Barry, 720p quality. Real eye opener of respect for the machine.
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Posted By
bubis
on 2012-09-17
08:48:07
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Do you remember Heartfixer?
It's a 95% version and never will be a final one, because the hard drive that contained the sources just crashed. I have tied to find at least the 3d object I used in the last effect again on the web many times, but somehow I have been unsuccessful doing so ... until now.
Today, I found it!
http://fastscan3d.com/download/samples/
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Posted By
Luca
on 2012-09-17
10:11:02
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Damn! Plus/4 releases history has been ravaged by drive crashes along the time! Who said Battery 3?
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Posted By
retroscener
on 2012-09-17
19:47:21
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
You just beat me to that video MIK. Although it's C64, it's still really amazing to watch
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Posted By
MIK
on 2012-09-18
03:15:49
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
A couple of things we share in that vid, Thrust, Monty, Manic Miner ect... All for one and one for all.
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Posted By
Jakec
on 2012-09-18
16:07:52
| Re: interesting'n'funny stuff
Commodore örs: (sorry only hungarian text)
http://hamster.blog.hu/2012/04/10/a_commodore_ors_es_egyeb_emlekek
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