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Charlemagne
on 2019-11-17
06:06:15
|  Re: LUMYDCTT: "There's no accounting for taste."
gerliczer: you are a very wise man and gave me a cool idea. Why I didn't think about that? I used to use VirtualBox in the past and installed some kind of windows, so I grabbed for them (.VDIs) again and tried out your notion:
Yes, I am running 6 different (exactly +1 as host (Win8.1), so 7) operating systems at the same time: Windows 3.1 (4fun), Windows 95 OSR2, Windows 98 SE, Windows ME, Windows XP SP2, Windows Vista Ultimate (this last one has just been installed yesterday) on Oracle VirtualBox 6.0.14
After a little rummage:
Windows 3.1: no way, there is no .NET
Windows 95 OSR2: the same as before no dotNET
Windows 98 SE: installing Windows Installer, Internet Explorer 5.5 and .NET2 in vain, because LUMYDCTT needs .NET4.0 at least.
Windows ME: the same as before, the highest version of .NET is 2.0 on this system, too.
Windows XP SP2: after installing ServicePack3 and .NET4.0, I managed to run LUMYDCTT at 800x600, 1152x864, 1280x1024... without any errors
Windows Vista Ultimate: installing only .NET4.0 and getting success
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Posted By
gerliczer
on 2019-11-16
04:58:45
| Re: LUMYDCTT: "There's no accounting for taste."
Sorry, sorry, sorry. It works on the Dell, too.
Additionally:
WindowsXP_Professional_SP3_hu_VirtualBox_4.3.40_r110317_Intel_440FX+PIIX3_2GB
innotek GmbH VirtualBox
CPU: Intel Core-3400 3.40GHz
Motherboard: Oracle Corporation VirtualBox Intel 82440FX (Natoma) + PIIX3
RAM: 2GB
Video card: VirtualBox Graphics Adapter
Monitor: --- [Host computer]
Sound card: Intel 82801AA I/O Controller Hub - AC'97 Audio Adapter [B-0]
Sound system: --- [Host computer]
SSD: ---
HDD: VBOX HARDDISK 16GB
OS: Windows XP Professional 32-bit SP3
A virtual machine running on my PC above. Works.
On a different note:
SVS should do the same as he did with YAPE. When the application crashes, he should make a memory dump of the process and send it to Charlemagne. If they didn't do it so far.
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Posted By
Charlemagne
on 2019-11-16
02:17:24
| Re: LUMYDCTT: "There's no accounting for taste."
gerliczer: Thank you very much. You approach this topic very professional...  For your first comment: I have a closer look at your MB and I realized that you can make this computer more powerful with an M.2. SSD even. I cannot do this. For your second one: you have just forgotten to write "LUMYDCTT works or not"...
MMS: it seems almost each Commodore Plus/4 fan is using a computer with some sort of nVidia card... ...but I read somewhere on the net that some of the latest ones make a tetris-bug. I don't know they have already fixed this problem with certain chipsets (macron?) or not yet.
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Posted By
gerliczer
on 2019-11-16
01:39:34
| Re: LUMYDCTT: "There's no accounting for taste."
Windows10_Professional_1803_x64_en_i77500U_2.9GHz_16GB_Intel_Kaby_Lake_U_Chipset_NVIDIA_940MX
Dell Vostro 5568
CPU: Intel Core i7-7500U 2.90GHz
Motherboard: Dell 0927W0
RAM: 2xTEAMGROUP-SD4-2400 16GB
Video card: NVIDIA GeForce 940MX [Dell] 4096 MBytes of GDDR5 SDRAM [Samsung]
Monitor: NT15N41 [Dell P/N: 4561N]
Sound card: Intel Kaby Lake U/Y PCH High Definition Audio Controller
Sound system: Internal Speakers/Sennheiser HD 215
SSD: Crucial CT1050MX300SSD1 977 GB
HDD: ---
OS: Windows 10 Professional 64-bit 1803
That's a notebook my employer gave me for work.
@MMS: No, sometimes I do some retro programming too, like Sweet DFLI C16 or Screenoff.  Actually, that's a dual boot machine with one more drive and a different Windows for software development.
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Posted By
MMS
on 2019-11-15
17:21:54
 | Re: LUMYDCTT: "There's no accounting for taste."
gerliczer, I suppose you use your config only to Plus/4 emulation
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Posted By
gerliczer
on 2019-11-16
01:37:43
| Re: LUMYDCTT: "There's no accounting for taste."
Windows7_Professional_SP1_x64_en_i76700_32GB_Intel_H170_NVIDIA_GTX_1050_Ti
CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.40GHz
Motherboard: Gigabyte H170-HD3-DDR3
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Pro 32GB (2xCMY16GX3M2C1600C9, DDR3, 1600)
Video card: ASUS PHOENIX GTX 1050 Ti 4096 MBytes of GDDR5 SDRAM [Samsung]
Monitor: DELL UP2516D -> 2560x1440
Sound card: High Definition Audio, Realtek® ALC887 codec
Sound system: Roland RH-200
SSD: Crucial CT500MX200SSD1 465 GB
HDD: Intel Raid 1 Volume 1863 GB 2xTOSHIBA DT01ACA200
OS: Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1
Works.
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Posted By
Charlemagne
on 2019-11-15
05:54:14
| Re: LUMYDCTT: "There's no accounting for taste."
Chronos: Thank you very much indeed.
gerliczer: There is no any testing procedure, only running it. (Verona run into a problem on his XP, Ati couldn't run it at all, and I don't understand it, because he didn't send me a screenshot about his problem. In the end, SVS met an impossible situation (see above). He turned off his firewall, antivirus software, updated his .NET in vain. The evil is playing with his computer... )
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Posted By
gerliczer
on 2019-11-15
00:45:21
| Re: LUMYDCTT: "There's no accounting for taste."
Is there some testing procedure to follow? Or is it enough if it starts up? Maybe I'll give it a spin, too.
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Posted By
Chronos
on 2019-11-14
17:36:51
 | Re: LUMYDCTT: "There's no accounting for taste."
Windows10_Enterprise_1803_x64_hu_PentiumG2030_3GHz_6GB_Intel_H61
Works!
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Posted By
Charlemagne
on 2019-11-14
08:48:08
| Re: LUMYDCTT: "There's no accounting for taste."
Hi MMS,
Maybe, you are right again..., but for example my desktop computer (at home, 6 years-old) on which I have been developing LUMYDCTT most of the time is the following:
CPU: AMD FX-8350 4GHz
Motherboard: Asus M5A99X
RAM: Kingston 16GB (DDR3, 2133)
Video card: Gigabyte nVidia Geforce GTX 760 OC 4GB
Monitor: LG 29UM67 LED 21:9 UltraWide IPS -> 2560x1080
Sound card: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium HD
Sound system: Logitech Z906 THX
SSD: Samsung 1TB
HDD: Western Digital 4TB + 2TB
OS: Windows 8.1 Professional + Debian 10 (Buster)
...bla-bla...
Well, this is really not the very latest configuration of computer systems, but not so bad, and you can see I use a dedicated video card, not integrated... ...and LUMYDCTT is running flawlessly...
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Posted By
MMS
on 2019-11-13
14:55:48
| Re: LUMYDCTT: "There's no accounting for taste."
Well, you did not benchmark the Plus/4 3D performance on different 3D cards, just the IGPs
(and it works well on my also old PC too:
Windows10_Home_x64_HU_Intel_Core2Duo_E8500_3_16GHz_8GB_GT1030_1920_1080
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Posted By
Charlemagne
on 2019-11-12
16:15:48
| LUMYDCTT: "There's no accounting for taste."
I have tested LUMYDCTT on a large amount of computer configurations and get success, here is some examples:
Lumydctt_Windows7_Enterprise_SP1_x64_HU_PentiumDualCore_E5300_2_60GHz_2GB
Lumydctt_Windows7_Professional_SP1_x64_hu_PentiumDualCoreE5500_2_80GHz_2GB_IntelG33
Lumydctt_Windows7_Professional_SP1_x64_hu_PentiumDualCoreE5500_2_80GHz_2GB_IntelQ45
Lumydctt_Windows7_Professional_SP1_x86_hu_Pentium4_2_80GHz_2GB
Lumydctt_Windows7_Professional_SP1_x86_hu_PentiumDualCoreE5500_2_80GHz_2GB
Lumydctt_Windows7_Ultimate_SP1_x32_HU_AMDTurion_64_X2_2GHz_2GB_1440x900
Lumydctt_Windows7_Ultimate_SP1_x64_hu_AMDAthlon64X2DualCore4200_2_21GHz_4GB
Lumydctt_Windows8_1_Professional_x86_HU_IntelPentiumG645_2_90GHz_2GB_IntelHD_1920x1080
Lumydctt_Windows8_1_Professional_x86_HU_IntelPentiumG645_2_90GHz_2GB_IntelHD_1920x1080
Lumydctt_Windows8_1_Professional_x64_HU_IntelCore_i5_3470_3_20GHz_4GB_IntelHD_1920x1080
Lumydctt_Windows10_Education_x64_EN_IntelCeleron_E3300_2_50GHz_2GB
Lumydctt_Windows10_Education_x64_HU_IntelCore_i3_4160_3_60GHz_4GB
Lumydctt_Windows10_Home_x64_HU_IntelPentium_G3250_3_20GHz_4GB
Lumydctt_Debian10Linux_x64_EN_Wine_AcerTravelMate5730_IntelCore2Duo_P8400_2_26GHz_8GB_1280x800_256GBSSD
It seems that I managed to run LUMYDCTT on any computer and everywhere (school, local government, library, culture house, old-or-new computers, etc.)...
BUT, there are a pair of people who reported that they couldn't run LUMYDCTT, for example SVS:
...and after searching the above problem on the net, we couldn't find any good solution for SVS.
The other person who reported me a problem was Ati. He didn't say anything important, but LUMYDCTT didn't run on his Acer TravelMate 6460 (Win7).
So, when you encounter a (or more) problem with LUMYDCTT, please be nice to send me a screenshot, because I won't guess out what is the problem and I need some tip. I am not a mind-reader...
Thank you.
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