Posted By
Spektro
on 2024-01-28
13:15:36
 |  Private messages
Would it be possible to develop the site's private message system so that displaying and answering to the messages would work like forum threads?
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Posted By
Csabo
on 2024-01-28
13:44:12
| Re: Private messages
Yes. Yes it would 
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Posted By
Spektro
on 2024-01-28
16:23:29
| Re: Private messages
That was easy 
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Posted By
Csabo
on 2024-01-28
20:43:48
| Re: Private messages
Definitely, an easy question! Sure, it would be possible, if someone were to actually implement something like that
Lucky for me, no one has actually asked for this yet. Something like that has been on my radar, but it would probably be a lot of work, and I have precious little time.
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Posted By
gerliczer
on 2024-01-29
01:21:21
| Re: Private messages
@Csabo: I think I mentioned you this some time ago: list the PMs with from, to and time, and people unable to live without organizing them into threads can do so.
BTW, wouldn't it be easier to put somewhere a link to access PMs instead of telling all the people unable to do a simple search for answers to their common problem one by one how to do it?
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Posted By
Csabo
on 2024-02-08
14:49:38
| Re: Private messages
The new and (maybe?) improved PM system is now in place. PM me if you see anything broken 
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Posted By
Lavina
on 2024-02-09
04:43:30
 | Re: Private messages
If I hit reply button then the history comes up but I cannot message because "I cannot message to a profile".
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Posted By
SukkoPera
on 2024-02-09
05:11:53
| Re: Private messages
It seems to work well for me, but is there a way to access my conversations without necessarily replying to a message?
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Posted By
gerliczer
on 2024-02-09
05:58:15
| Re: Private messages
@SukkoPera: /pm.php
@Csabo: See, you forgot to put somewhere, anywhere a link for people to access Private Messaging.
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Posted By
Litwr
on 2024-02-09
06:27:44
| Re: Private messages
What's the problem? Just find your address and press Send a PM. If you just want to check your previous posts, just don't press the Send button.
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Posted By
Csabo
on 2024-02-09
08:27:54
| Re: Private messages
Couple of things: there are some members in the database that are only "profiles". That means we opened a member record for someone without their consent. That person never officially joined Plus/4 World, they never logged in (and can't because they never chose a password). You cannot message these people; there would be no point. (Similarly, if you have conversations with someone who passed away, you can no longer message them - RIP Skoro.) If you encounter this, that means someone must have joined recently and the "IsProfile" flag in their member record was never cleared - let me know who you were trying to message.
As gerliczer pointed out, currently there's no direct link to the Private Messages page. (You have to click someone's name from the bottom of the forum, then click the top link.) I'm open to suggestions as to where to add it.
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Posted By
gerliczer
on 2024-02-09
09:05:51
| Re: Private messages
I'm open to suggestions as to where to add it. The individual member pages look to be an obvious place. It has already link to forum posts and if the member was active on the old mailing list to his mails too.
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Posted By
MIK
on 2024-02-09
10:59:37
 | Re: Private messages
If it's that important take a screen shot, or photo of the screen.
Or just trade emails as soon as possible.
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Posted By
Lavina
on 2024-02-09
12:50:25
| Re: Private messages
I was messaging there and back with LBM in the last couple of days and it went fine. Now the forementioned behaviour came instead. So now I cannot reply to him.
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Posted By
Csabo
on 2024-02-09
13:35:44
| Re: Private messages
That's been fixed already LBM used to have a profile only, he joined P4W very recently and we must have forgotten to clear this flag. Apologies.
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Posted By
Lavina
on 2024-02-09
15:14:02
| Re: Private messages
cool. Thanks Csabó, this new feature is quite useful.
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Posted By
JamesC
on 2024-02-09
16:08:46
| Re: Private messages
@Csabo: a good place for the Private Messages link might be where the site displays our username and the Logout link. I'm on the default theme, so for me this would be in the header at the top right.
Another possible, and somewhat logical place, would be just before (or just after) the Forum link in the header.
Edit to add: the link should only show to logged-in members. No need to make PMs available to the Googlebot. ;)
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Posted By
Spektro
on 2024-02-10
00:39:17
| Re: Private messages
@Csabo
The new PM system looks good and works well Thanks Csabo!
Maybe this is a bad idea, but what about merging the user's Private Message page (pm.php) with their own profile page?
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Posted By
Csabo
on 2024-02-10
08:16:22
| Re: Private messages
@JamesC don't worry, that page - like most members only features - is not available at all for Google. (If you don't want to log out, you can test the site in an incognito window, it looks quite different if you're not a member.)
@Spektro right, so merging the entire PM page with the users own profile is not right, but adding a link there is the obvious solution. This way it's consistent:
- If you look at a member's detail page, the link to message them is there at the bottom (this was there before, that's unchanged)
- If you look at your own page, there's a new link now which takes you to the PM page.
This also means that it's reachable from anywhere on the site with only 2 clicks: click your own profile (top/right), then that link.
I added a new link to the "message sent" page as well; "Back" should take you back to wherever you where (before you replied to someone), and the new link will take you to the PM page.
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Posted By
Csabo
on 2024-03-09
16:52:04
| Re: Private messages
A new feature is now available for PMs: you can send files privately, hopefully helping with collaboration. The files are "reasonably private": no one without the randomly generated URL will see them. However, if you post that URL somewhere, anyone with the URL will be able to see the files - they are on the server after all.
Only certain extension are allowed (zip, asm, prg, stuff like that). Oh, I also increased the overall file size limit (from 4MB to 10MB). If you guys need another (reasonable) extension allowed, or if you run into any issues regarding this feature, let me know.
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Posted By
seff
on 2024-03-09
22:32:52
 | Re: Private messages
@Csabo This is great! Thanks.
.bin, .rom, .d64
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Posted By
Csabo
on 2024-03-10
09:24:23
| Re: Private messages
No problem, those are allowed, along with most other Plus/4 file extensions.
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