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Posted By

Sidney
on 2017-07-06
17:34:45

Tap Dancer

I've recently been using the aforementioned app with my Amstrad Cpc and have had great results. I had a try with my Spectrum and that has been pretty succesful too. The app says it also works with the C64 which I will try too, my question is- does this app work with the C16 and if so what are your experiences with it? Best loading volumes etc. Thanks.

Posted By

Csabo
on 2017-07-07
09:23:56

Re: Tap Dancer

I haven't used it, and I'd assume that no-one did from our small scene, but judging from the app's reviews and description I would assume it should work for the C16.

Posted By

Luca
on 2017-07-07
12:44:24

Re: Tap Dancer

I'd used to check its development since the beginning but they've never added C16 support.

Posted By

MMS
on 2017-07-07
13:51:50

Re: Tap Dancer

As far as I know, the C64 and Plus/4/C16 uses different pulse coding to cassette save/load, thus if the C16 support not mentioned specifically, it will not probably work. I mean you cannot load a C64 format saving into a C16.
(physically the same datasette (with adapter) and head, etc used, but the pulse coding is somehow different, or reversed (or what))

Please correct me if I just BSing. (I could not find any article right now on the subject)

Posted By

Sidney
on 2017-07-09
11:45:17

Re: Tap Dancer

Thanks chaps, i can't get it to work so my guess is it isn't C16 compatible, ggggrrrrr!!!

Posted By

MMS
on 2017-07-09
16:54:31

Re: Tap Dancer

One comment on this from http://www.versluis.com/2014/07/fixing-up-a-commodore-plus4/
"With the right adaptor, either datasette can be used on either computer – even though the recorded format is not compatible. For example, a programme saved by a C64 on the same datasette cannot be read by a Plus/4 (they use different frequencies to write data).

From C2N232 documentation (they KNOW the stuff)
"The digital oscilloscope was needed again in October or November for debugging the custom transfer routines on the Commodore 264 series, whose cassette read input is level-sensitive and not high-to-low sensitive like in all other Commodores. At that time, nothing remarkable was reported in the news."

The exact explanation is on Page 25 here:
http://www.commodorefree.com/magazine/vol6/issue59.pdf
In my reading, the new Plus/4 format could store a pulse in shorter time than the predecessor TAP1 format.

BTW, I think the level sensitive input is less sensitive to tape quality than the high-to-low method (a simple dropout may result bad loading with transient detection)).
Despite other guys misaligned heads I do not remember major reading problems with my tapes(good old socialist Polimer brand and few BASF)

Here you may find some goodies may help you:
http://www.zimmers.net/anonftp/pub/cbm/crossplatform/transfer/datassette/index.html

Actually, the C2N232 requires some more detailed knowledge on circuit building than my RS232 project.

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