Posted By
odo
on 2014-04-29
14:58:56
|  wanted plus4 in the netherlands
i like the plus4 a lot  and want to have an extra one Not yellowed Can make a swap i have a a1200
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Posted By
RobertB
on 2014-04-29
15:17:47
| Re: wanted plus4 in the netherlands
Go to the Home Computer Event or Netherlands Commodore Show. The HCE is May 17 and the NCS is June 21. More information is at
http://commodore.hcc.nl/events
Perhaps you can trade or buy there,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
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Posted By
odo
on 2014-04-29
15:23:09
| Re: wanted plus4 in the netherlands
Hi RobertB
I'm to sick to go Always wanted to go to the hcc
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Posted By
Retro76
on 2014-04-29
21:33:08
 | Re: wanted plus4 in the netherlands
Hi ODO
I have a spare c16 UK version but only one plus/4, sorry!
I guess you are after a boxed complete european (german) Plus 4 ?
I am surprised you want to give up an a1200? I didnt know that the grey/black plus4's can yellow !
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Posted By
MIK
on 2014-04-29
22:58:02
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Yes even C16's turn a different colour.
On a C16 your see the keys go brown and the case goes almost jet black or rather an oil looking nasty black-ish colour.
Plus/4 keys can go yellow and this is very common with Amiga's too as the keys are white. The +4 case like the C16 can go oil looking black as well but they tend to hold the colour better than C16's do when the have turned... It's the fire resistant chemicals in the plastic that causes it, UV light from the sun does not help at all and makes the process of turning yellow happen much faster.
When not using your machine/s keep a cover over them and out of the sun light!
Odo,
If you lived in the UK and (if) I was more up for it as in health wise I would of... sorry man!
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Posted By
Imperious
on 2014-04-30
02:57:34
| Re: wanted plus4 in the netherlands
If You have soldering skills and access to an eprom burner, I would suggest looking at getting one from the USA.
I have bought 3, one I converted from NTSC to Pal.
One sold here in Australia on ebay for $150 + postage, mine were all cheaper than that and not yellowed.
You take the same risk wherever You get them from as far as them working 100% is concerned.
You would need a Euro power supply or a 240(220)-110 converter for a USA model
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Posted By
odo
on 2014-04-30
15:14:30
| Re: wanted plus4 in the netherlands
Think i'll ask Robertb if he can find on on the HCC meeting
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Posted By
odo
on 2014-04-30
16:16:30
| Re: wanted plus4 in the netherlands
maybe a deal only problem no logo But i think also not yellowed
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Posted By
odo
on 2014-05-01
17:38:10
| Re: wanted plus4 in the netherlands
A very nice swap got some extras to But looking for the logo
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/69919542/plus4.jpg
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Posted By
Retro76
on 2014-05-01
21:19:41
| Re: wanted plus4 in the netherlands
Yes it look great Odo !
I recently purchased a c16 logo from ebay UK, all for under $10AUD including postage.
They do appear every now & again. You gotta ask yourself whether you want it permanently imprinted so as to use super-glue or just blu-tack to see how it holds on.
I just used a thin layer of blu-tac & it has not budged or bubbled up
Oh & i do not leave any vintage computers sitting next to windows to gather sunlight or dust !
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Posted By
MIK
on 2014-05-02
01:11:05
| Re: wanted plus4 in the netherlands
Very nice odo.
If it's for spares then I would not worry about the case or logo, unless your current one is bad?
If your current case is cool then, if ever the motherboard dies you put the new motherboard inside that good case and keyboard. Recycle with what you have and your always have a perfect looking machine every time. Spares can be in any shape or forum, as long as the motherboard is working your good for many years. Dead machines can have working chips too so useful for spares as well.
The badges can be stuck down with a very small amount of super glue. My C16 badge started to lift one end, I used a tooth pick to lift it a little and another tooth pick using it like a brush to put the glue on the underside of the badge only. Small and thin amount, enough to be tacky so when you push down it does not spread out of the sides. 
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Posted By
Patrick
on 2014-05-02
08:20:17
| Re: wanted plus4 in the netherlands
odo, i have some spare +4 logos!
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Posted By
odo
on 2014-05-02
09:25:12
| Re: wanted plus4 in the netherlands
thanks
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Posted By
Odo
on 2014-05-02
11:07:11
| Re: wanted plus4 in the netherlands
it's just nice to have to complete plus4 that's why
@ Patrick how ?
BTW nice forum nice people
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Posted By
odo
on 2014-05-02
16:09:41
| Re: wanted plus4 in the netherlands
Patrick i want one
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Posted By
Patrick
on 2014-05-03
08:03:29
| Re: wanted plus4 in the netherlands
read your message on the HCC forum!
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Posted By
odo
on 2014-05-03
11:23:41
| Re: wanted plus4 in the netherlands
You have a PM Thanks Patrick
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Posted By
odo
on 2014-05-04
13:10:15
| Re: wanted plus4 in the netherlands
Patick did you read my pm ?
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Posted By
Patrick
on 2014-05-04
14:34:09
| Re: wanted plus4 in the netherlands
odo, yes i have read it. i will send you 1 tomorrow!
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Posted By
odo
on 2014-05-04
16:12:57
| Re: wanted plus4 in the netherlands
many thanks
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Posted By
Retro76
on 2014-05-05
03:58:00
| Re: wanted plus4 in the netherlands
Good to hear you guys come to an arrangement
By the look of the photo above, it appears MIK is also short of a c16 logo.
I guess here is a good opportunity if you want to chase one up !
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Posted By
MIK
on 2014-05-05
17:28:32
| Re: wanted plus4 in the netherlands
That so called C16 needs no logo. It's a tempory home/case that saves a working mother board from being damaged.
That's why I said above, "Recycle with what you have and your always have a perfect looking machine every time". You just need the one perfect machine.
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Posted By
Patrick
on 2014-05-13
15:44:26
| Re: wanted plus4 in the netherlands
odo, sorry for the delay. the logo is in the mail and you will receive it soon!
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Posted By
odo
on 2014-05-13
16:21:47
| Re: wanted plus4 in the netherlands
thanks 
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Posted By
Retro76
on 2014-05-16
00:43:35
| Re: wanted plus4 in the netherlands
ODO it is good to hear you got what you wanted & are happy with this site
Perhaps you will now consider joining us as a member of the Plus/4 World
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Posted By
odo
on 2014-05-17
10:27:01
| Re: wanted plus4 in the netherlands
Hi Patrick, I got it! Sorry for the delay. I'm happy man again
@Retro76 people are so friendly here
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