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Luca
on 2018-04-04
06:27:08
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And now, for a little addon.
Probably, digitizing jewelry models from magazines was a sort of habit: I bet this Commodore classic too, apparently from De Beers' mag ads, comes from a similar source of Cartier's (?) model "face of a woman"...  As seen in Chum and The 2nd, to cite some.
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Posted By
gerliczer
on 2018-04-04
04:19:23
| Re: Two Lost Demos From TPSH
New Lone News issue? Yay!!! 
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Posted By
Luca
on 2018-04-03
07:33:22
| Re: Two Lost Demos From TPSH
Some updates about the "face of a woman" case.
- someone C64 sided too asked for the same question at Lemon64;
- I sent an email to the author, little hope but who knows...
- after the original Apple release, the "face of a woman" picture can be seen in the magazines' adverts of the Super-Res Graphic Board for Commodore PET (see here);
- TPUG Issue 19 (1985Dec) advert clearly reports "...and only one image can be shown on an Apple II computer (the original source)...";
- on the site linked above, there's available the demo disk (.d80) for SuperPET with that image; ain't able to run it on VICE xPET emulator, probably due to the lack of this particular hardware emulation, but it's possible to load the 16,7 Kb file to see that it really is the "face of a woman", stored in height sequence in a format for a larger display, and the file is named "KAREN"!
EDIT: Bill answered back promptly and told me his slice of the history, now, I have a whole tale to write down and spread, and to place somewhere definitely, so I think it's time for another old, badly coded, irq missing issue of Lone News :)
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Posted By
Csabo
on 2017-01-31
17:54:59
| Re: Two Lost Demos From TPSH
So... we still need to find the original 
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Posted By
Luca
on 2017-01-31
16:36:57
| Re: Two Lost Demos From TPSH
The origins of "Face of a Woman" picture and its whole brotherhood are in the hands of Bill Atkinson, inbetween the development from Lisa User Interface to Mac UI, while studying innovative graphic routines which would eventually become the core of QuickDraw.
Being a professional photographer, the "Face of a Woman" could have been taken from his own portfolio, and used to be digitalized with a modified fax machine just to test the power of 720x360 monochrome graphics with halftone patterns routine. Having reached another milestone, as usual he'd taken a picture with the polaroid he used to keep on his table.
Lately, Bill himself has distributed those pictures as a demo under the Apple label, downscaled in resolution.
Read the full story here.
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Posted By
Csabo
on 2017-01-31
13:59:10
| Re: Two Lost Demos From TPSH
Nice find Trurl, it is the same picture. That release is also from 1983, just like Hires Demo mentioned above. We still need to find the original
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Posted By
Trurl
on 2017-01-31
08:07:55
| Re: Two Lost Demos From TPSH
The girl picture can also be find in this slideshow: http://csdb.dk/release/?id=102546
According to the title page, the pictures have been converted from Apple II.
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Posted By
Jakec
on 2017-01-23
14:40:49
| Re: Two Lost Demos From TPSH
Great, I remember these
The girl image is still out of Epson printers I printed a long time ago.
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Posted By
Luca
on 2017-01-22
18:10:48
| Re: Two Lost Demos From TPSH
The pic should has been used in the C64 "Top Priority" demo (November 1989), and the scrolling text in the same part described it as probably converted from PC by someone, and well known as "Girl's face" aka "Face of a woman".
EDIT: apparently, this should be the very first converted picture ever, existing in 1983 as Hires Demo, by some overseas guy.
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Posted By
Csabo
on 2017-01-22
16:52:00
| Re: Two Lost Demos From TPSH
Nice find! If you do a google image find on the picture, it comes up for pretty much every system (C64, Acorn, even Primo). Would be interesting to find the original.
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Posted By
Luca
on 2017-01-22
14:11:05
| Re: Two Lost Demos From TPSH
That woman picture has been also horribly used in Lajos Detari Demo.
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Posted By
Csabo
on 2017-01-21
14:11:05
| Two Lost Demos From TPSH
  New Proggys!! was recently added, and I've combed through the program list (now also online) to see what our database has and what it doesn't. In the missing list, I saw 3 programs from TPSH, so I emailed him to ask if he remembered any of those. Imagine my surprise when he sent back two :-)
So here's a mini review of them: Face Of A Woman may look familiar, the titular picture shows up in Advertisment, First Demo (TNS) and even One Sided. The origins of this picture are currently unknown, if anyone knows, drop a line to us on the forum! The second demo, No Future - not to be confused with CSM's demo with the same name - has 3 parts, the middle part being "build-it-up" style. Pretty typical for the Plus/4 scene for 1990 :-)
Best of all, TPSH said there's more to come :-) Check them out and enjoy!
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