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Posted By
Andras78
on 2009-01-16
01:13:36
 Programming and converting

Dear All,

I'm recurring guest every time and I feel like doing to convert from my Plus4 Tape some porgrams for the PC emulators.
What requirements are necessary to convert a program from tape to PC?
Anyone can help how can I start?
Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Andras

Posted By
Jakec
on 2009-01-16
03:19:24
 Re: Programming and converting

Hi!

http://www.luigidifraia.com/c64/index.htm

and TapWAV is a utility that converts TAP files into audio files (WAV format) that can be directly recorded to tapes with an audio recorder plugged to the soundcard output line or burned to an audio CD for later transfer to tapes by means of a Hi-Fi system. No specific hardware is needed for this conversion.

Enjoy!

Posted By
MMS
on 2009-01-16
03:19:35
 Re: Programming and converting

A tape deck or walkman first? I suppose cable also to connect to your mic input

To be more serious:
Basically it works in the same way as the Spectrums. You connect an external Cassette player to your PC sound card, record the tape content as WAV file (signal level is important, but you can adjust it), then specific programs able to create out of that a TAP file compatible with the emus.

Hereyou will find tools, including thones ones converting tapes to PC:
http://www.zimmers.net/anonftp/pub/cbm/crossplatform/transfer/datassette/index.html

some of them are DOS program, you may also need a DOSBOX to able to run under XP or Vista environment.
I hope I was complete.

Posted By
Jakec
on 2009-01-16
03:32:33
 Re: Programming and converting

First:
convert prg to wav
Second:
wav burn to CD
And:
copy to tape with HiFi's.

Posted By
Andras78
on 2009-01-16
03:54:06
 Re: Programming and converting

Wow, thank your answers
I have a tape deck for C Plus 4, but Walkman(c) is too
Ill checking these, Thanks a lot!

Posted By
Chicken
on 2009-01-16
09:43:33
 Re: Programming and converting

I think you just want to load tapes into the PC, don't you?

If you don't have a dedicated interface for a datasette an old mono tape recorder connected to the soundcard will do (probably better than a stereo tape deck).

Mike has a few hints on this topic here:
http://www.javalemmings.com/minus4/tape.htm

Posted By
Jakec
on 2009-01-18
23:55:19
 Re: Programming and converting

Sorry it's not work. (tapwav) My commy is not LOAD this created cassette... .
Mayhaps: http://markus.brenner.de/

Posted By
Jakec
on 2009-01-19
00:11:22
 Re: Programming and converting

I created X1531 tape connector cable. http://markus.brenner.de/x1531/index.html This ok, and running the ptap prg. in DOS.... and not works...

Posted By
Andras78
on 2009-01-19
02:35:09
 Re: Programming and converting

I'm trying just simple record the cassette data via IN with my soundcard and convert it. After this Ill note you how it is works.

Posted By
Jakec
on 2009-01-23
02:28:15
 Re: Programming and converting

Hi!
You read it:

http://tapes.c64.no/conv.php#totaps

Posted By
Andras78
on 2009-01-24
02:04:52
 Re: Programming and converting

GREAT! Thanks a lot!

Posted By
Andras78
on 2009-07-25
07:10:37
 Re: Programming and converting

Dear Gurus!
I've tried this converting but I need some support. I write the steps what I did:
1 - I have cable with 2 Jacks. The first is out from my old Tape (from headphones) and the second part of this cable is going in my notebook LineIn [Mac OSX ]
2 - I followed the instructions of
http://www.javalemmings.com/minus4/tape.htm
and recorded the program ("Her Turbo")
3 - The signal is not amplified, Mono, 44100Hz, 16bit, using Audacity program (I used this on PC too, really comfortable and reliable)
4 - Save it in WAV format

And now is my problem. I've tried with and without Filters (Noise Reduction, Normalize, Amplify, etc.) and tried to Loading in Yape, Tape - Attach Tape - select the target WAV file.
But nothing happens, only 'Break Error', because it is not found the header (I think) of the program and could not load it.

Anyone has experience in this?
Or anyone have this Her Turbo program?
I asking because I have lot of cassettes and all of them are recorded by Her Turbo. I'm affraid that if I would like to load a game from my any tape it is necessary to load this Her Turbo first. It is right or not?
If Yes: any Turbo softwares what are made for C16 or C+4 is working with a compression? I mean that program what are copied with any Turbo is necessary to Load with that Turbo?

Thanks in Advance any help!

Andras

Posted By
Gaia
on 2009-07-25
15:56:16
 Re: Programming and converting

Hmmm.... try this in this order:

1) high pass filter~100 Hz
2) low pass filter ~5000 Hz
3) Amplify with clipping (probably most important)

Unfortunately HER TURBO is rather picky Just like back in the old days. I just digitized a tape of mine with an old walkman (!). Now that's almost hopeless. But I could recover a lot of programs including HER TURBO itself

You can send me the WAV if you wish and I'll have a look (írhatsz magyarul ).

Incidentally, I am playing with the idea of writing a WAV2TAP converter in VB .NET. Heck, not even the C64'ers have a proper one!

Posted By
Andras78
on 2009-07-26
01:59:43
 Re: Programming and converting

Thank you Gaia

Oh, I'm trying with 'Amplify with clipping', because I did not select it at the converting process
...
This is a part of a big project, because as I see the 'Időlabirintus' game is not included in the Game section and I have this game on Tape I would like to convert it and share it here.
First, I'll record the whole side of my tape and cut it out with a Wave editor and send it to you to check
Thanks in Advance!

Posted By
C16 Chris
on 2010-01-27
18:32:32
 Re: Programming and converting

Gaia you wrote: Incidentally, I am playing with the idea of writing a WAV2TAP converter in VB ..............

have you start this project ? ................ i have bougt a Q-Sonic Tapeplayer http://www.focus.de/digital/multimedia/q-sonic-digicube-der-kassettenschlucker_did_24403.html?special=12001 and use the Audacity program to covert my old Audio Tapes in .mp3. My idea is to record my big c16 & plus/4 colection as .wav and convert them all to .tap.



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